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Ed's were in Nam. Mine were in the ETO over Germany.
Art, I will trade you 25 over Pack 6 and and 25 over Pack 1 for your 50. For the record, I've enjoyed your recollections of your experiences in the TO and I humbly offer my thanks for your service to our country. Steve |
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"Steve Mellenthin" wrote in message ... Press guy then. Public information guy, whatever. Armed with a camera and notebook. Actually, I think he had a typewriter. |
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Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: ojunk (Steve Mellenthin) Date: 7/11/2004 10:28 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Ed's were in Nam. Mine were in the ETO over Germany. Art, I will trade you 25 over Pack 6 and and 25 over Pack 1 for your 50. For the record, I've enjoyed your recollections of your experiences in the TO and I humbly offer my thanks for your service to our country. Steve Thanks Steve. I was 18 years old at the time and had nuthin' better to do so I went to war. It tweren't nuthin'. (shy grin) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote
I can't speak for a generation, but in 1942 my greatest fear was that the war would end before I got there and I would miss the adventure of a lifetime. War is attractive to youth. Americans love war. Most veterans will tell you they were scared, wouldn't do it again, but deep down--their lives were nothing before, or after the war. |
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Ed's were in Nam. Mine were in the ETO over Germany.
Art, I will trade you 25 over Pack 6 and and 25 over Pack 1 for your 50 Whats pack 6 and pack 1? Was it anything like the Ruhr Valley? (:-) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: ojunk (Steve Mellenthin) Date: 7/11/2004 10:14 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: I think Ed said he had 100 and I flew 50. So you still lead the pack. Well done. Thanks but I defer to one Paul Dembrowsky, on whose wing I flew on a six month deployment to Thailand in 72. He had 479 at the start of the deployment. Sheeesh. The mind boggles as the blood curles. No one in WW II got nearly that many. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote
Sheeesh. The mind boggles as the blood curles. No one in WW II got nearly that many. Fighter pilots did. Average bomber crews probably only fly two sorties a week, and they are much longer than a fighter sortie. |
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Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: "D. Strang" Date: 7/11/2004 11:09 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: 9lfIc.22545$r3.12181@okepread03 "ArtKramr" wrote Sheeesh. The mind boggles as the blood curles. No one in WW II got nearly that many. Fighter pilots did. Average bomber crews probably only fly two sorties a week, and they are much longer than a fighter sortie. Bombers flew missions. Fighters flew sorties. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:49:11 -0500, "D. Strang"
wrote: "ArtKramr" wrote I can't speak for a generation, but in 1942 my greatest fear was that the war would end before I got there and I would miss the adventure of a lifetime. War is attractive to youth. Americans love war. Most veterans will tell you they were scared, wouldn't do it again, but deep down--their lives were nothing before, or after the war. Your reply to Art sounds like the beginning of the George C. Scott "Patton" speech--"American's love a good fight." But, the daily blathering seems to refute that, at least for the current crop. American's love to stay home and watch the latest reality show while someone else does the fighting for them. They love to forget the reality of life and the truism that "freedom isn't free." Few veterans will tell you they were scared. They certainly won't tell you that before the fight and few will confess to it during the fight. Some will admit it years after the war. But warriors WILL do it again and then again. The numbers of warriors that served multiple tours in combat zones, that served multiple overseas tours and separations from families, that re-upped and made a career out of defending an ungrateful nation certainly were more than willing to do it again. And, their lives after the war are much more than those of the pathetic whimperers who think nothing is worth more than self. Those who kept faith with their brothers in arms walk taller than those who turned their back on them for the political gains of the moment. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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