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  #1  
Old December 6th 17, 11:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Casey[_2_]
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Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at it?

I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without looking at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound familiar.

Casey
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Old December 6th 17, 11:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ben Coleman
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On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 22:26:52 UTC+11, Casey wrote:
Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at it?

I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without looking at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound familiar.

Casey


I bought mine without looking. So it can happen. Although I paid for an inspection by a local repair shop. Not recommended though, worth the trip even overseas!

Cheers Ben
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Old December 6th 17, 11:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Be careful of the scam where you are offered more than your asking price and then a later request to send some of the additional funds to another party usually identified as his broker or similar. The request will come after the check has been cashed but before it has cleared (which it will not).
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Old December 6th 17, 12:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:26:52 AM UTC-5, Casey wrote:
Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at it?

I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without looking at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound familiar.

Casey


I have sold 2 gliders w/o buyer seeing it but your question (I assume tongue in cheek) raises red flags. My local gliderport had 3 gliders listed for sale and all 3 of us got the same offer. The language in the offer often intimates the buyer has no knowledge of soaring. One buyer gave a mailing address which I Googled. It was a vacant house! Check the SSA website to determine if the buyer is a member. If the offer still doesn't pass the smell test insist the buyer send his rep to inspect the ship.
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Old December 6th 17, 01:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
AS
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Default Buy Glider without looking

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 7:08:00 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:26:52 AM UTC-5, Casey wrote:
Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at it?

I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without looking at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound familiar..

Casey


I have sold 2 gliders w/o buyer seeing it but your question (I assume tongue in cheek) raises red flags. My local gliderport had 3 gliders listed for sale and all 3 of us got the same offer. The language in the offer often intimates the buyer has no knowledge of soaring. One buyer gave a mailing address which I Googled. It was a vacant house! Check the SSA website to determine if the buyer is a member. If the offer still doesn't pass the smell test insist the buyer send his rep to inspect the ship.


One buyer gave a mailing address which I Googled. It was a vacant house!

That poor Nigerian Prince probably had to sell all his earthly belongings and move out of his house just to afford your glider! C'mon - have a heart and accept his offer - it's close to Christmas! ;-)
But seriously - the same scam is being pulled worldwide on anything from planes, cars and boats. The German soaring forum is full of warnings about it.. A serious buyer will not object to presenting a cashier's check or a bank transfer.

Uli
'AS'
  #6  
Old December 26th 17, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathon May[_2_]
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Default Buy Glider without looking

At 13:47 06 December 2017, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 7:08:00 AM UTC-5,

wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:26:52 AM UTC-5, Casey

wrote:
Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at

it?
=20
I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without

looking
=
at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound
familiar=
..
=20
Casey

=20
I have sold 2 gliders w/o buyer seeing it but your question (I

assume
ton=
gue in cheek) raises red flags. My local gliderport had 3 gliders

listed
f=
or sale and all 3 of us got the same offer. The language in the

offer
ofte=
n intimates the buyer has no knowledge of soaring. One buyer

gave a
mailing=
address which I Googled. It was a vacant house! Check the SSA

website to
=
determine if the buyer is a member. If the offer still doesn't pass

the
sm=
ell test insist the buyer send his rep to inspect the ship.

One buyer gave a mailing address which I Googled. It was a

vacant
hous=
e!
That poor Nigerian Prince probably had to sell all his earthly

belongings
a=
nd move out of his house just to afford your glider! C'mon - have

a heart
a=
nd accept his offer - it's close to Christmas! ;-)
But seriously - the same scam is being pulled worldwide on

anything from
pl=
anes, cars and boats. The German soaring forum is full of

warnings about
it=
.. A serious buyer will not object to presenting a cashier's check or

a
bank=
transfer. =20

Uli
'AS'

Just had a gent offer full £154,000.00 for my duo and wants me to
send my detail so he can send a cheque.
Well it is Christmas !


  #7  
Old December 26th 17, 05:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Buy Glider without looking

Accept the offer if it is what you're asking.* Tell him you will hold
the glider for him to collect AFTER the check has definitely cleared.*
Better yet, have him wire the funds.

On 12/26/2017 9:57 AM, Jonathon May wrote:
At 13:47 06 December 2017, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 7:08:00 AM UTC-5,

wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:26:52 AM UTC-5, Casey

wrote:
Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at

it?
=20
I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without

looking
=
at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound
familiar=
..
=20
Casey
=20
I have sold 2 gliders w/o buyer seeing it but your question (I

assume
ton=
gue in cheek) raises red flags. My local gliderport had 3 gliders

listed
f=
or sale and all 3 of us got the same offer. The language in the

offer
ofte=
n intimates the buyer has no knowledge of soaring. One buyer

gave a
mailing=
address which I Googled. It was a vacant house! Check the SSA

website to
=
determine if the buyer is a member. If the offer still doesn't pass

the
sm=
ell test insist the buyer send his rep to inspect the ship.

One buyer gave a mailing address which I Googled. It was a

vacant
hous=
e!
That poor Nigerian Prince probably had to sell all his earthly

belongings
a=
nd move out of his house just to afford your glider! C'mon - have

a heart
a=
nd accept his offer - it's close to Christmas! ;-)
But seriously - the same scam is being pulled worldwide on

anything from
pl=
anes, cars and boats. The German soaring forum is full of

warnings about
it=
.. A serious buyer will not object to presenting a cashier's check or

a
bank=
transfer. =20

Uli
'AS'

Just had a gent offer full £154,000.00 for my duo and wants me to
send my detail so he can send a cheque.
Well it is Christmas !



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Old December 28th 17, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Buy Glider without looking

On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 9:00:07 AM UTC-8, Jonathon May wrote:
At 13:47 06 December 2017, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 7:08:00 AM UTC-5,

wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:26:52 AM UTC-5, Casey

wrote:
Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at

it?
=20
I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without

looking
=
at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound
familiar=
..
=20
Casey
=20
I have sold 2 gliders w/o buyer seeing it but your question (I

assume
ton=
gue in cheek) raises red flags. My local gliderport had 3 gliders

listed
f=
or sale and all 3 of us got the same offer. The language in the

offer
ofte=
n intimates the buyer has no knowledge of soaring. One buyer

gave a
mailing=
address which I Googled. It was a vacant house! Check the SSA

website to
=
determine if the buyer is a member. If the offer still doesn't pass

the
sm=
ell test insist the buyer send his rep to inspect the ship.

One buyer gave a mailing address which I Googled. It was a

vacant
hous=
e!
That poor Nigerian Prince probably had to sell all his earthly

belongings
a=
nd move out of his house just to afford your glider! C'mon - have

a heart
a=
nd accept his offer - it's close to Christmas! ;-)
But seriously - the same scam is being pulled worldwide on

anything from
pl=
anes, cars and boats. The German soaring forum is full of

warnings about
it=
.. A serious buyer will not object to presenting a cashier's check or

a
bank=
transfer. =20

Uli
'AS'

Just had a gent offer full £154,000.00 for my duo and wants me to
send my detail so he can send a cheque.
Well it is Christmas !


DO NOT accept a check! Have him wire the money; it is actually easier than sending checks. If he objects you KNOW he is a scammer.

Tom
  #9  
Old December 6th 17, 12:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Buy Glider without looking

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:26:52 AM UTC-5, Casey wrote:
Has anyone every sold a glider without the buyer looking at it?

I have my glider listed for sell and the guy is buying without looking at it and sending a cashiers check and arranging shipping....sound familiar.

Casey


I forgot one other scam killer. Insist on using an aircraft title company. I know one is available through AOPA.
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Old December 6th 17, 01:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I agreed to buy my Pegasus without having seen it in person first. That said, I did have a very knowledgeable person who was very familiar with the glider vouch for its condition. I also listed my glider for sale on W&W and got the same scam reply that you (and others) got.
 




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