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Old April 6th 07, 12:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Andrew Gideon
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Default Please adjust your trim settings.

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:18:37 -0700, Lee McGee wrote:

Making a post small is not rocket science.


This is true, but orthogonal to the idea of top/bottom posting.

People don't normally repeat parts of a conversation, but conversations
are normally far quicker than USENET dialog. Thus, reminders can help.

More, dialogs in person are far more interactive than on USENET. A speaks
a little, B speaks a little, etc. Because of the latency of USENET, that
doesn't work as well here. So A "speaks" (writes) a bunch, and then B
replies. Often, a given reply message actually consists of multiple
replies to multiple points made by A.

It makes sense in that case to interleave cited text with response.
Answers typically follow questions (certain TV shows excepted {8^),
so the response to a cited bit of text follows the cited bit of text.

Thus, bottom-posting.

The message with a lone citation is just a degenerate case, and shouldn't
be treated differently.

The utility of this becomes even more apparent as A (or C) replies to
B. Nested citations (trimmed as much as possible, of course) help to
retain the context for readers (esp. given that USENET is neither reliable
nor ordered), but it requires far more work to understand if the response
precedes the cited text.

- Andrew

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Old April 6th 07, 12:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Andrew Gideon
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:06:14 -0400, Bob Noel wrote:

[...]

Funny, but now I've a headache.

Laugh

- Andrew


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Old April 6th 07, 03:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ron Wanttaja
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Default Please adjust your trim settings.

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 14:18:37 -0700, "Lee McGee" wrote:

Normal people talking in a group do not repeat the entire conversation every
time they respond.


No, but they don't respond to a comment two or three days later, either.

If you've got an active topic, you don't know what specific comments the poster
is responding to. Top posting is like telling the punch line of the joke
*first*.

HOWEVER...I will agree that bottom posting relies more heavily on the poster
trimming the previous comments. If you're too lazy to trim, then by all means,
top post.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old April 6th 07, 01:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ross
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Default Please adjust your trim settings.

I can set Netscape to post before or after the quoted text. BTW, it took
me a minute to figure Bob's reply out. Pretty funny.

Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
"RST Engineering" wrote:


Because that's not how normal people respond to things. Normal people want
to see the new stuff first because they have already waded through the prior
postings.



at the top?
btw - are there any newsreaders with threading that put the newest post

(try to post replies after quoted material in outlook).
increased use of crap software like outlook for email and outlook express
anyway, top-posting is probably becoming more common due to the

to see it in context?
"Normal" people want to see new stuff first? How about wanting


I can set Netscape to post before or after the quoted text.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old April 6th 07, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Montblack
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("Ross"wrote)
I can set Netscape to post before or after the quoted text.



Can you set those same trim settings to post before or after, say

.....1/3 the quoted text? g


Montblack


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Old April 6th 07, 07:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ross
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Montblack wrote:
("Ross"wrote)


....1/3 the quoted text? g
Montblack


No, you have to edit then.
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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old April 7th 07, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jules
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Default Please adjust your trim settings.

Oh Lordy, this is a newsgroup isn't it.
God bless them all, everyone.

Montblack wrote:

Trimming quotes - a lost art?

It might just be me, but it seems like more and more people are quoting 100%
of the previous post(s) in their replies.

Please adjust your trim settings. g

Thanks.


Montblack
http://www.ionaircraft.com/update.html
"We're" g ....taxiing the plane to a different hangar for the canopy
installation - later today. I stop in from time to time and help out, as
best I can.



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Old April 11th 07, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Rob
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On Apr 5, 2:12 pm, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote:
("Steven P. McNicoll" wrote)
Bottom posting IS the way to go. That IS how normal people respond.

I would PREFER top posting.


North Up vs. Track Up... Forward Slip vs. Crab and Kick...

Sheesh. Be yourself.

(nice trimming, eh?)

-R


 




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