Skymaster MEL

Sylvain wrote:
I don't mean to be picky, but would one engine out exercises performed
in a B-52 be as interesting as performed in say, a civilian light twin?



Wouldn't that depend on whether that engine out was caused by a SAM? G



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

NO!!!

NOT THE DREADED SEVEN ENGINE LANDING!!!!


"Sylvain" wrote in message
t...
I don't mean to be picky, but would one engine out exercises performed
in a B-52 be as interesting as performed in say, a civilian light twin?

:-)

--Sylvain

BT wrote:
true.. same for F-15 and T-38

showing a valid (current) military check ride in something like a B-52 or
KC-135, C-17, C141
will remove the restriction
BT

On Apr 23, 6:05 pm, "BT" wrote:
true.. same for F-15 and T-38

showing a valid (current) military check ride in something like a B-52 or
KC-135, C-17, C141
will remove the restriction
BT

They're not going to let F-15 jocks behind something a complicated at
a B-52 though are they? Figure 20 times the number of knobs alone.

-Robert

On Apr 23, 8:43 pm, Sylvain wrote:
I don't mean to be picky, but would one engine out exercises performed
in a B-52 be as interesting as performed in say, a civilian light twin?

:-)

--Sylvain



BT wrote:
true.. same for F-15 and T-38

showing a valid (current) military check ride in something like a B-52 or
KC-135, C-17, C141
will remove the restriction
BT- Hide quoted text -

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Depends on the actual airplane weight.

A B737/800 at max gross will perform better then a 135HP Apache on one
because the regs say that it has to meet certian climb gradient
requirments...and fortunatly I have only had the pleasure at Max gross
in a simulator...but having taken my MEL in a 135HP Apache the first
time I tried "the Pig" at max gross...I have flashbacks...

Robert

Luke Skywalker wrote:
A B737/800 at max gross will perform better then a 135HP Apache on one
because the regs say that it has to meet certian climb gradient
requirments...and fortunatly I have only had the pleasure at Max gross
in a simulator...but having taken my MEL in a 135HP Apache the first
time I tried "the Pig" at max gross...I have flashbacks...



Such a beast existed? I flew for a company that had a Geronimo conversion with
180 hp per side and also an older uncoverted Apache with 150 hp per side. I
cannot imagine that twin with less hp than 150 per side. It did pretty good
with 180 but was anemic with 150. At 135 I think you'd have needed a catapult
to launch.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

On 2007-04-22 09:57:10 -0700, said:

Posibly a dumb question and one that has been answered before. I did a
quick search and did not find the answer.
If you did all your twin training in a Skymaster and received you MEL
would you be limited to inline thrust twins or is a "normal" MEL? If
it is inline thrust only how are would it be to change to all twins.
Reason I am asking is I may have a chance to do some training in a
Skymaster and I am wondering if it is worth it to get my MEL.

As the others have said, you are limited to centerline thrust only. As
to the other part of your question, I would have to say that if you can
get your multi-engine training inexpensively in the Skymaster then go
for it. Just do the add-on later.

If this is a pressurized Skymaster you might as well get the
pressurized and high altitude sign-offs as well.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 24 Apr 2007 20:16:10 -0700, Luke Skywalker
wrote:

On Apr 23, 8:43 pm, Sylvain wrote:
I don't mean to be picky, but would one engine out exercises performed
in a B-52 be as interesting as performed in say, a civilian light twin?

:-)

--Sylvain



BT wrote:
true.. same for F-15 and T-38

showing a valid (current) military check ride in something like a B-52 or
KC-135, C-17, C141
will remove the restriction
BT- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Depends on the actual airplane weight.

A B737/800 at max gross will perform better then a 135HP Apache on one
because the regs say that it has to meet certian climb gradient
requirments...and fortunatly I have only had the pleasure at Max gross
in a simulator...but having taken my MEL in a 135HP Apache the first
time I tried "the Pig" at max gross...I have flashbacks...

Robert

The lowest horsepower Apache made was 150 H.P., but still was
underpowered.

....and one thing for absolutely certain - single engine the 150 Apache was
going to land...somewhere. I did my MEL in a twin Comanche and though multi
was a wonderful new adventure. Switched to the Apache and dropped the word
"wonderful" from "new adventure"...

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas

"Luke Skywalker" wrote in message
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On Apr 23, 8:43 pm, Sylvain wrote:
Depends on the actual airplane weight.

clipped for brevity

...but having taken my MEL in a 135HP Apache the first
time I tried "the Pig" at max gross...I have flashbacks...

Robert

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:16:07 -0700, C J Campbell
wrote:


If this is a pressurized Skymaster you might as well get the
pressurized and high altitude sign-offs as well.

Does the pressurized Skymaster have a service ceiling in excess of
FL250?

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Sylvain wrote:

I don't mean to be picky, but would one engine out exercises performed
in a B-52 be as interesting as performed in say, a civilian light twin?

There is a term for that in the military...

In the case of the B52, the dreaded seven engine approach