COMPARE THIS ULTIMATE PANEL

Guy Byars wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. If you want
to know where you are, look at your map.

Apparently, I'm buying my maps at the wrong sto my paper maps show
where everything is EXCEPT me! Bummer. Where do you get paper maps that
show where YOU are?

If you want to know how far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

Did that for 20 years, and it sucks. And by that I mean it's inaccurate
(see above comment), it's slow, it's awkward, and I still don't know how
much altitude I need, which is what I REALLY want to know. Doesn't show
me runway width, either, and don't get me started on how "great" a paper
map is for avoiding airspace incursions.

If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

If you are messing with those things in flight, you're doing it wrong. I
"mess" with the map on the computer, not the computer. The computer
handles the real "messing" by measuring the distances and calculating
the altitude required so I don't have to.

Here's a feature not available on the paper maps at all. In the olden
days, I'd mark about 20 or so uncharted strips, and 20 or so good fields
on my map. When I bought a new map, I'd have to laboriously copy them to
the new map. And, I still didn't have the elevation or any comments
about the landing place. With my PDA, it's just a separate file that
gets loaded in whenever I load a new map database, no effort on my part.
Also, the file is easy to keep up to date as the duster strips and
landout fields change, plus it has comments about the place.

Go back to paper maps? I think I'd rather drop a wing tip during assembly!

This was a troll, right? Kinda early for winter cabin fever...

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Guy Byars wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

Mine's been just like that since the late 1980's...except my vario is
round instead of straight, and, cuz my panel is marginally larger I have
some empty holes in it through which can be glimpsed unused wires from
an earlier age.

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. If you want
to know where you are, look at your map. If you want to know how far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

"Roger all that!" My sectionals have 10 mile circles around my
'outs'...works over Tiger Country, too. In some places circle radii
reach 30 mi. before overlapping.

Earlier this year my Schuemann Box died between flights (unbeknownst to
me until the next takeoff), so no mechanical vario, and couldn't locate
my (borrowed from wife) backup Malletec during the flight. Too cheap to
intentionally relight, rust and fear limited my butt-vario to a wimp
300K. With proper motivation, the day's misadventures might make a
"Soaring"-worthy short story...


If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

Guy Byars

Point taken, though my today's office precludes computer use; RAS tends
to be it anymore!

Regards,
Bob - prediluvian - W.

On Sep 13, 12:32*am, Guy Byars wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. *If you want
to know where you are, look at your map. *If you want to know how far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

Guy Byars

Only thing wrong with that glider is that it is too clean! Someone
needs to go fly it!

Cool project... and it deserves better exposure, so here's the link
you didn't include http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20

The guy that taught me to fly -- Dave Welles -- flew a gold distance
flight in a 1-20. Must have been an epic.

-Evan Ludeman / T8

Point well taken, Guy! I'm against these fancy new automatic control
hook-ups, also. If your not using a claw hammer and vice grips to
assemble your bird, your not engaging in the true spirit of the event.
I especially like hooking up (and safety'ing) control cables and
torquing wing pins......................puts me in the true spirit of
soaring.
Cheers,
JJ

How can you see ANY of those instruments when you are unfolding a Map
in the cockpit of a glider like that?

I just turn my "Devices" on at the beginning of the flight and off
when I land.

They provide information as I fly, moving map, Airspace, landable
points within glide range, at a glance, but require no interaction.

If you have systems that need interaction then I agree, you are
spoiling your flying by having to mess with gadgets and focus inside
the cockpit.

I still have paper maps as a backup, but those need fussing with as
well when unfolding/folding and trying to find things.

My particular setup is interaction free, leaving me free to focus on
the visual and seat of the pants aspects of flying.

If I'm not paying attention to something important the gizmo beeps to
let me know I need to take a quick glance at it.

Setups are completed entirely at home in the livingroom, with a
computer degree of course ;-)

Ray




On Sep 12, 9:32*pm, Guy Byars wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. *If you want
to know where you are, look at your map. *If you want to know how far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

Guy Byars

How can you see ANY of those instruments when you are unfolding a Map
in the cockpit of a glider like that?

I just turn my "Devices" on at the beginning of the flight and off
when I land.


They provide information as I fly, moving map, Airspace, landable
points within glide range, at a glance, but require no interaction.


If you have systems that need interaction then I agree, you are
spoiling your flying by having to mess with gadgets and focus inside
the cockpit.


I still have paper maps as a backup, but those need fussing with as
well when unfolding/folding and trying to find things.


My particular setup is interaction free, leaving me free to focus on
the visual and seat of the pants aspects of flying.


If I'm not paying attention to something important the gizmo beeps to
let me know I need to take a quick glance at it.


Setups are completed entirely at home in the livingroom, with a
computer degree of course ;-)


Ray

iPAQ 310 & XCSoar



On Sep 12, 9:32*pm, Guy Byars wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. *If you want
to know where you are, look at your map. *If you want to know how far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

Guy Byars

One trick is to cut off the parts of the map you don't intend to use.
This gets it down to a reasonable size with one or two folds at most. You
can put the legend in the side pocket in case you need it and in case you
might be charged with not having a current sectional (expriation date
printed right there.)

At 18:55 14 September 2009, jb92563 wrote:
How can you see ANY of those instruments when you are unfolding a Map
in the cockpit of a glider like that?

I just turn my "Devices" on at the beginning of the flight and off
when I land.

They provide information as I fly, moving map, Airspace, landable
points within glide range, at a glance, but require no interaction.

If you have systems that need interaction then I agree, you are
spoiling your flying by having to mess with gadgets and focus inside
the cockpit.

I still have paper maps as a backup, but those need fussing with as
well when unfolding/folding and trying to find things.

My particular setup is interaction free, leaving me free to focus on
the visual and seat of the pants aspects of flying.

If I'm not paying attention to something important the gizmo beeps to
let me know I need to take a quick glance at it.

Setups are completed entirely at home in the livingroom, with a
computer degree of course ;-)

Ray




On Sep 12, 9:32=A0pm, Guy Byars wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. =A0If you
want
to know where you are, look at your map. =A0If you want to know how
far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

Guy Byars

On Sep 14, 2:30*pm, Nyal Williams wrote:
One trick is to cut off the parts of the map you don't intend to use.
This gets it down to a reasonable size with one or two folds at most. *You
can put the legend in the side pocket in case you need it and in case you
might be charged with not having a current sectional (expriation date
printed right there.)

At 18:55 14 September 2009, jb92563 wrote:



How can you see ANY of those instruments when you are unfolding a Map
in the cockpit of a glider like that?

I just turn my "Devices" on at the beginning of the flight and off
when I land.

They provide information as I fly, moving map, Airspace, landable
points within glide range, at a glance, but require no interaction.

If you have systems that need interaction then I agree, you are
spoiling your flying by having to mess with gadgets and focus inside
the cockpit.

I still have paper maps as a backup, but those need fussing with as
well when unfolding/folding and trying to find things.

My particular setup is interaction free, leaving me free to focus on
the visual and seat of the pants aspects of flying.

If I'm not paying attention to something important the gizmo beeps to
let me know I need to take a quick glance at it.

Setups are completed entirely at home in the livingroom, with a
computer degree of course ;-)

Ray

On Sep 12, 9:32=A0pm, Guy Byars *wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. =A0If you
want
to know where you are, look at your map. =A0If you want to know how
far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

Guy Byars- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Besides there is good reason sectionals expire every six months. If
you fold them the way I do, you're lucky if they last that long :-)

Pete

One trick is to cut off the parts of the map you don't intend to use.
This gets it down to a reasonable size with one or two folds at most. You
can put the legend in the side pocket in case you need it and in case you
might be charged with not having a current sectional (expriation date
printed right there.)

At 18:55 14 September 2009, jb92563 wrote:
How can you see ANY of those instruments when you are unfolding a Map
in the cockpit of a glider like that?

I just turn my "Devices" on at the beginning of the flight and off
when I land.

They provide information as I fly, moving map, Airspace, landable
points within glide range, at a glance, but require no interaction.

If you have systems that need interaction then I agree, you are
spoiling your flying by having to mess with gadgets and focus inside
the cockpit.

I still have paper maps as a backup, but those need fussing with as
well when unfolding/folding and trying to find things.

My particular setup is interaction free, leaving me free to focus on
the visual and seat of the pants aspects of flying.

If I'm not paying attention to something important the gizmo beeps to
let me know I need to take a quick glance at it.

Setups are completed entirely at home in the livingroom, with a
computer degree of course ;-)

Ray




On Sep 12, 9:32=A0pm, Guy Byars wrote:
The panel in my glider is the ultimate in sunlight readability, low
power consumption, ease of use, low maintenance, low clutter and low
cost.

http://www.gfbyars.com/SGU1-20/final/P1010425.JPG

If you want to see terrain features, look out the window. =A0If you
want
to know where you are, look at your map. =A0If you want to know how
far
you are from the turnpoint, put your ruler on the map and measure.

If you want to mess with computers, USB input devices and VGA
displays, why not just stay at the office.

Guy Byars

I just turn my "Devices" on at the beginning of the flight and off
when I land.
They provide information as I fly, moving map, Airspace, landable
points within glide range, at a glance, but require no interaction.

Then you are in the minority.

I think the most dangerous time during a soaring contest is when the
CD changes the task after all the pilots have launched. I can imagine
every pilot in the contest flying blindly with his head down, and eyes
glued to a computer as he scrolls and pokes the screen trying to enter
the new task.