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Ok, good 2-place for x-country
My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it
great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! |
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"Larry Johnson" wrote in message om... My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! Take out a second and get a PW-6 and trailer. Frank Whiteley |
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Try a Peregrine (aka Krozno)
Search on Peregrine sailplanes or Barry aviation, assuming you're in the US. Wad. --- "Larry Johnson" wrote in message om... My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! |
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I would recommend a Blanik L-23 or 13... but not that easy to assemble
and I've heard the factory is going kaput.. so their price/value may decrease as parts become scarce.. not sure of the pricing of a PW6 or its assembly BT "Larry Johnson" wrote in message om... My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! |
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He mentioned something about 30+L/D. Two average-sized people can easily
rig/derig a PW-6. However, I had a longish talk with Patty Barry this past week. I gather owning the TC doesn't mean you have Manufacturing Certification. The very good news is that hurdle should be passed soon and production can ramp up in a couple of months or so. This hurricane season slowed them down a little also. They did deliver one handiquipped version to FreedomsWings Canada earlier this year. www.freedomswings.ca Picture Gallery Hopefully the seat and leg room improvements they're incorporating will make it more comfortable. I've never rigged/derigged one, so I can't speak to that. I personally found the rear seat quite comfortable. Someone mentioned to me last week that the Krosno front seat for him was quite uncomfortable after a short while. Frank Whiteley "Waduino" wrote in message news Try a Peregrine (aka Krozno) Search on Peregrine sailplanes or Barry aviation, assuming you're in the US. Wad. --- "Larry Johnson" wrote in message om... My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! |
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"Waduino" wrote in message news Try a Peregrine (aka Krozno) Search on Peregrine sailplanes or Barry aviation, assuming you're in the US. Take your daughter to your local commercial operation or club and try some serious flying with her before you invest thousands. I really cherish the time I have spent flying with my own daughter, and I suggest that you do not let this opportunity pass by. Serious flight instruction is another matter, I would suggest any good GFIG who is not yourself. It is really difficult to teach your own kids. I have flown the Krosno for years and think that it is a truly wonderful basic trainer, and a great club/commercial machine. It is one of the two gliders that I would consider allowing a kid of mine to solo in. That said, I would not call it an X-country trainer. It has an L/D of 27/1 (future improvements planned) and is not particularly easy to rig/derig. After hundreds of flights in both the front and back seats, I have found no particular comfort issues and remember few complaints from others. On the other hand, I am afraid that the trainer that Larry is asking for (30+ L/D, no mortgage) does not exist. Perhaps a G 103 would come closest? Vaughn Wad. --- "Larry Johnson" wrote in message om... My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! |
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A Calif A21S might be worth a look. 41:1, side-by-side, all metal. Less
money than a G103. -- Bert Willing ASW20 "TW" "Vaughn" a écrit dans le message de news: ... "Waduino" wrote in message news Try a Peregrine (aka Krozno) Search on Peregrine sailplanes or Barry aviation, assuming you're in the US. Take your daughter to your local commercial operation or club and try some serious flying with her before you invest thousands. I really cherish the time I have spent flying with my own daughter, and I suggest that you do not let this opportunity pass by. Serious flight instruction is another matter, I would suggest any good GFIG who is not yourself. It is really difficult to teach your own kids. I have flown the Krosno for years and think that it is a truly wonderful basic trainer, and a great club/commercial machine. It is one of the two gliders that I would consider allowing a kid of mine to solo in. That said, I would not call it an X-country trainer. It has an L/D of 27/1 (future improvements planned) and is not particularly easy to rig/derig. After hundreds of flights in both the front and back seats, I have found no particular comfort issues and remember few complaints from others. On the other hand, I am afraid that the trainer that Larry is asking for (30+ L/D, no mortgage) does not exist. Perhaps a G 103 would come closest? Vaughn Wad. --- "Larry Johnson" wrote in message om... My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! |
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There was a Janus A for sale in Soaring for what looked like a reasonable
price. "Larry Johnson" wrote in message om... My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! Larry in Avenal. Home of the Raven! |
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Larry Johnson wrote:
My daughter has the bug bad and really wants to fly with me. I find it great. Now what are some of the 2-place that have around 30+l/d and still allow for purchase without a mortage? Pros and cons with handling in the air and ground greatly appreciated! Spring is almost here! I'm not familiar with the second hand market in the states, so this might not be an option on your side of the world. However, I think a Grob Twin Astir is a good option as a relatively good yet affordable x-country ship for private use. A Blanik is great fun, but if you land out you have a problem as it's hard to rig and derig. A Puchacz (SZD 50-3) is also a fine ship, but less suitable for x-country than a Twin I think. André |
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