Busy airports and small GA

"Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
Just curious ... How many of you know the origin of xyzzy, without
cheating and looking it up?

Nothing happens.

I'm in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

Let's just say that I do recall eventually seeing the Fortran code for it
(a port to MNF for a CDC 6400), a few years after I'd played it on a 110
baud Teletype(R). That was about thirty years ago.

Jim Logajan wrote:

Nothing happens.

I'm in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

LOL! If you ever get out, check out Flight Simulator 2.0. Depending
on your display, you can get 4-color graphics!

-c

On Jul 22, 3:39*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
"Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
Just curious ... How many of you know the origin of xyzzy, without
cheating and looking it up?

Does that question interest you?

Nothing happens.

Does it please you to know nothing happens?

I'm in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

Please go on.

Let's just say that I do recall eventually seeing the Fortran code for it

Why do you recall eventually seeing the Fortran code for it?

(a port to MNF for a CDC 6400), a few years after I'd played it on a 110
baud Teletype(R). That was about thirty years ago.

Can you elaborate on that?

--------------

Who remembers that, w/o looking it up?

Jon Woellhaf writes:

Just curious ... How many of you know the origin of xyzzy, without cheating
and looking it up?

I do.

buttman writes:

A lot of times they only charge you if you use the FBO, which is
everytime unless you're just doing a touch and go. Sometimes they
waive the fee if you buy a ton of gas (like literally a ton),
sometimes they only charge a fee if the aircraft is certified to weigh
anymore than a certain amount. It all really depends. In my
experience, the fee is very informal, and if you REALLY wanted to get
out of paying, you could probably just take off and I don't think much
would happen. Sometimes my company flies to large airports which have
landing fees, but we only ever go to the cargo apron and drop off, so
we never visit a FBO, and therefore never pay anything. I know for a
fact we flew into Toronto a few months ago, dropped off at some cargo
hangar, filed our flight plan back to KYIP, then took right back off.
Later I looked it up, and there is indeed a landing fee there that we
most certainly did not pay. All though they may have called one of our
dispatchers to collect the fee...

I thought a FBO was a private enterprise that operated on the premises of the
airport, not part of the airport mangement itself. What exactly is the
relationship of the FBO to the airport? Can't there be multiple FBOs at an
airport?

Jon wrote:
On Jul 22, 3:39*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
"Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
Just curious ... How many of you know the origin of xyzzy, without
cheating and looking it up?

Does that question interest you?

Nothing happens.

Does it please you to know nothing happens?

I'm in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

Please go on.

Let's just say that I do recall eventually seeing the Fortran code
for it

Why do you recall eventually seeing the Fortran code for it?

(a port to MNF for a CDC 6400), a few years after I'd played it on a
110 baud Teletype(R). That was about thirty years ago.

Can you elaborate on that?

--------------

Who remembers that, w/o looking it up?

Again, I do - and I didn't need a therapist to help me remember.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

buttman writes:

A lot of times they only charge you if you use the FBO, which is
everytime unless you're just doing a touch and go. Sometimes they
waive the fee if you buy a ton of gas (like literally a ton),
sometimes they only charge a fee if the aircraft is certified to
weigh anymore than a certain amount. It all really depends. In my
experience, the fee is very informal, and if you REALLY wanted to get
out of paying, you could probably just take off and I don't think
much would happen. Sometimes my company flies to large airports which
have landing fees, but we only ever go to the cargo apron and drop
off, so we never visit a FBO, and therefore never pay anything. I
know for a fact we flew into Toronto a few months ago, dropped off at
some cargo hangar, filed our flight plan back to KYIP, then took
right back off. Later I looked it up, and there is indeed a landing
fee there that we most certainly did not pay. All though they may
have called one of our dispatchers to collect the fee...

I thought a FBO was a private enterprise that operated on the premises
of the airport, not part of the airport mangement itself. What
exactly is the relationship of the FBO to the airport? Can't there be
multiple FBOs at an airport?

You don't have enough brains to think, moron.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Jon Woellhaf writes:

Just curious ... How many of you know the origin of xyzzy, without
cheating and looking it up?

I do.


You looked it up. You are not competent to learn anything and have cheated
all your life.

Mxsmanic wrote:
buttman writes:

A lot of times they only charge you if you use the FBO, which is
everytime unless you're just doing a touch and go. Sometimes they
waive the fee if you buy a ton of gas (like literally a ton),
sometimes they only charge a fee if the aircraft is certified to weigh
anymore than a certain amount. It all really depends. In my
experience, the fee is very informal, and if you REALLY wanted to get
out of paying, you could probably just take off and I don't think much
would happen. Sometimes my company flies to large airports which have
landing fees, but we only ever go to the cargo apron and drop off, so
we never visit a FBO, and therefore never pay anything. I know for a
fact we flew into Toronto a few months ago, dropped off at some cargo
hangar, filed our flight plan back to KYIP, then took right back off.
Later I looked it up, and there is indeed a landing fee there that we
most certainly did not pay. All though they may have called one of our
dispatchers to collect the fee...

I thought a FBO was a private enterprise that operated on the premises of the
airport, not part of the airport mangement itself. What exactly is the
relationship of the FBO to the airport? Can't there be multiple FBOs at an
airport?

There you go trying to think about real world things again with no
frame of reference.

FBO stands for "Fixed Base Operator" and says nothing about who owns,
runs, or otherwise has any part in its operation, nor does it say
anything about how many there may or may not be at any particular
location anymore than the phrase "gas pump" says anything other than
a machine that dispenses gas.

The only thing that can be definatively said about the relationship
of a FBO to an airport is that it is on the airport.

If you were a real pilot you would have learned about FBO's in the
first couple of hours of instruction along with how to operate the
gas pump and how to refuel the airplane.


--
Jim Pennino

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"Jon Woellhaf" wrote in message
...
Just curious ... How many of you know the origin of xyzzy, without
cheating and looking it up?

I believe the correct answer is....

Who gives a $hit?

I could be wrong though.