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Yes, that was funny -- I seem to recall they floated a weiner dog or
something small like that... "mike regish" wrote in message news:0yuzb.19348$_M.65660@attbi_s54... Ever see the Americas Funniest Video where the camera shows two people in the front seat of a small plane. The shadow is changing, but you can't tell what they're up to untill the dog comes floating up out of the back seat, does a quarter turn and floats up in between them. It's hilarious. mike regish "Rich Stowell" wrote in message om... FAR 91.303, Aerobatic Flight, states in pertinent part: "For the purposes of this section, aerobatic flight means an intentional maneuver involving an abrupt change in an aircraft's attitude, an abnormal attitude, or an abnormal acceleration, not neccessary for normal flight." In the context of the Cessna 172, it could be argued (especially by an ornery FAA-type) that the "float the pencil" maneuver results in both "an abnormal attitude" and an "abnormal acceleration," and is "not necessary for normal flight." What exactly constitutes an "aerobatic maneuver" is left open for interpretation, and in the end depends on who's looking... And while the reply below is good, it is debatable whether or not it is the ONLY sensible one thus far. Given that the original poster has never done this before, isn't it prudent to suggest he get some dual in the particular maneuver before attempting it by himself, or worse, attempting it for the first time with the plane loaded with someone else's kids??? Rich http://www.richstowell.com Robert Moore wrote in message .7... (Dan Thomas) wrote It can be done from cruise speed. Pull up into a shallow climb, then start pushing forward, increasing pressure until the pencil comes off the panel. It'll feel like negative G's but isn't. The only stress on the airplane occurs when you pull out of the shallow dive created by the maneuver. You don't have to get the nose way up or down at all, and it doesn't require abrupt, or anywhere near full, control inputs. Kids love it. The ONLY sensible post in this whole thread! I "float" stuff with all of my new students, makes them feel like an astronaut. And that's in a Cessna-172. Who cares if the engine sputters? All of you sissies go back to MSFS. Its not an aerobatic maneuver and doesn't require areobatic training! Bob Moore ATP CFI |
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"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message . ..
For added effect use an aerobatic plane and bank to just over the 90 degrees. Got my g-meter up to about 3 pulling out of one of those. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! .. .. .. .. Ralph Buick |
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"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message ... If I moved the throttle forward too quickly on the 172 I learned on, there would be an almighty bang as it backfired and it would cough and splutter and take longer to pick up again. I learned quickly to move the throttle forward smoothly! Paul Oh, I do love stalls, you could get great stalls in a Beagle Pup. Sadly I only had one day of stalls and we lost our flying field, our Instructors before I got to spins. I'm sure I would have loved spins, however neither the Rallye 100 nor a piper cherokee are cleared for spin training, anyway we don't do full spin training anymore.:-) -- --- Cheers, Jonathan Lowe. / don't bother me with insignificiant nonsence such as spelling, I don't care if it spelt properly / Sometimes I fly and sometimes I just dream about it. :-) "G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... I would slam the throttle forward with the palm of my hand, while getting the carb heat off with my thumb. My instructor said it wasn't necessary to move that fast. |
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"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message ... For added effect use an aerobatic plane and bank to just over the 90 degrees. Got my g-meter up to about 3 pulling out of one of those. What plane was that? -- --- Cheers, Jonathan Lowe. / don't bother me with insignificiant nonsence such as spelling, I don't care if it spelt properly / Sometimes I fly and sometimes I just dream about it. :-) Paul "One's Too Many" wrote in message om... From level flight at slow-normal cruise, with plenty of altitude to spare (i.e 5000 AGL), pull the power back to idle and bank the thing over to almost 60 degrees letting the nose fall over in a slow steep banked 180 degree turn. Watch your airspeed and make sure it stays at or below Va. Level out and then do it again in the opposite bank, to make a big falling slow figure-8 pattern as you descend. Keep your bank at or below 60 degrees and the nose down angle less than 30 degrees and you're still legal. Because you're not maintaining level flight in the 60 deg banks, you're not really pulling any Gs in the banks either. The most Gs you pull is when you level out after you're done with the steep banks. Maybe 1.5 Gs at the most if you're sloppy about it. One of my favorite "fun" things since you get a windshield full of straight-down plus a wee bit of almost-zero-G feeling without hardly any stress on the aircraft at all. |
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