An Olive Branch

But that was done by one of 'our own' within our own borders,,,,, 911 was
carried out by foreigners...

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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:38:11 -0500, "Icebound"
wrote:

On the security front, I found it interesting that the people most likely to
be affected by terrorism (the big cities)... especially New York City, and
in spite of Guiliani's. popularity... still voted overwhelmingly AGAINST
the incumbent???? (like 70%plus ... 80% in the case of The Bronx)

I saw an interesting political tidbit the other day, it stated that
Bush supporters apparently did not believe the conclusions of the 9/11
Commission. Perhaps the folks in the Bronx did?

Corky Scott

I have one adamant Bushie at work who thinks the friggin' war is in Iran!

mike regish

"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:38:11 -0500, "Icebound"
wrote:

On the security front, I found it interesting that the people most likely
to
be affected by terrorism (the big cities)... especially New York City, and
in spite of Guiliani's. popularity... still voted overwhelmingly AGAINST
the incumbent???? (like 70%plus ... 80% in the case of The Bronx)

I saw an interesting political tidbit the other day, it stated that
Bush supporters apparently did not believe the conclusions of the 9/11
Commission. Perhaps the folks in the Bronx did?

Corky Scott

I have one adamant Bushie at work who thinks the friggin' war is in Iran!

A premonition?

If the Ayatollahs don't abandon their nuclear program, that's where this
road leads.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

mike regish ) wrote:
: I have one adamant Bushie at work who thinks the friggin' war is in Iran!
:

No, no, that's the next war:

http://www.theorator.com/bills108/s2681.html
Iran Freedom and Support Act of 2004

"...SEC. 3. SENSE OF CONGRESS ON UNITED STATES POLICY TOWARD IRAN.

It is the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United
States to support regime change for the Islamic Republic of Iran
and to promote the transition to a democratic government to
replace that regime..."

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2681.IS:
Iran Freedom and Support Act of 2004 (Introduced in Senate)


--Jerry Leslie
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80% in the case of The Bronx

Yes, we should all model our political opinions on those of the
Bronx.

Sigh.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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80% in the case of The Bronx

Yes, we should all model our political opinions on those of the
Bronx.



Well, maybe you would prefer the Financial District then... How about the
83% against Bush in Manhattan... maybe that's more your style?

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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:18:35 GMT, "Cecil Chapman"
wrote:
is determined by the members of the electoral
college, not by popular vote (which would make us a democracy).


That would still make us a republic. A democracy would mean we did
not have elected representatives (such as the president) and each
issue would be decided by popular vote.

That would still make us a republic. A democracy would mean we did
not have elected representatives (such as the president) and each
issue would be decided by popular vote.


THAT's what I was saying,,,, we are clearly a republic,,,,, placement
directly by the people would be a democracy

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Cecil
PP-ASEL-IA
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Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
"SR" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:18:35 GMT, "Cecil Chapman"
wrote:
is determined by the members of the electoral
college, not by popular vote (which would make us a democracy).

"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
. com...
Yeah,, okay. Gracefully accept the things one cannot change :0). I do
want to point out (despite the political 'clap-trap' you will hear) that
the United States is a Republic and NOT a democracy - the president
(through concerns by our founding fathers that the general populace wasn't
bright enough to make an informed vote ((they could still be right on this
one grin)) and also a concern by the less populous states that they
would not have an adequate voice ((even though more populous states get
more electors - go figure)) is determined by the members of the electoral
college, not by popular vote (which would make us a democracy).


Unless you know something most if us don't, they did not leave a definitive
reason why the electoral vote system was put in place. There are a a few
reasons it could have been done.

I wonder if your opinion on that would be different if the last two
elections had gone the other way but with the same electoral/popular vote
margin...

I can't believe that the existing government (and by this I mean the huge
size of the federal government, not whom is in power) would be tolerated by
the "founding fathers." I suspect they would be revoled by it and by the
idealogies of the two main parties - for example the governments
interference in our daily lives, the huge pillaging of paychecks, the social
programs, the interference of poeple's choice to control their bodies, "War
on drugs", gun control, etc.

the only sane government is one that is "libertarian" with a small 'L.'




Nothing to do about it now,,, you're right hopefully the fatherland,,,
oops I mean homeland security doesn't get any more out of hand... So,
onward and upward!

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Cecil
PP-ASEL-IA
Student - CP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -