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Boundaries between Approach/Departure and Center
I don't know, but I'm afarid we'll get there one day
as the reaches of the federal government continues to grow. There is a control tower being built right now at my local airport. What's the reason? Ronnie "Sam Spade" wrote in message ... Good answer. Next question: why isn't all airspace in the United States controlled airspace? Ronnie wrote: The Air Traffic Control System Command Center owns all controlled airsapce in the US. They allocate authority to 21 ATC Centers via letters of authorization (LOA) that specify the lateral and vertical boundaries of each center's airspace. The centers divide their airspace up into high alititude and low altitude areas with each sub-divided into multiple sectors. The laterial and vertical boundaries of each sector are designed to handle the particular geographical area and traffic flows. Centers delegate authority to the approach / departure radar facilities (TRACONs) within their airspace via letters of authorization that define the lateral and vertical boundaries of the TRACON's airspace. There are 197 TRACONs in the US as of the last time I checked. TRACONs in turn grant airspace autority via LOA to the tower facilities within their airspace. Again, laterial and vertical boundaries are defined in the LOA. Handoffs occur when a flight crosses a boundary between facilities or sectors. None of the charts show all these boundaries. Sectionals show controlled airspace associated with an airport terminal area, but there usually multiple sectors within a large TRACON. Low altitude IFR En Route charts show the center boundaries, but not the sector boundaries. Frequencies as charted for the various sectors in a general area, but these are not always the frequencies that a flight will be given during a handoff. Instrument flights deal with this by simply following the instructions given by ATC; eg. "N54321 contact Memphis Center on 134.25." We don't concern our selves about where the boundaries are, because we will be prompted during the hand-off. Also, you may be given a hand-off before or after you cross an ATC boundary, depending on controller work load, his ability to coordinate with the receiving controller, and aircraft speed. Should you miss a hand-off or get out of range before a hand-off occurs, simply find a center frequency or TRACON frequency within range and call to re-establish communication. If you are not on the correct frequency, the controller will get you to the correct one. "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... What determines the boundaries between airspace managed by an en-route ATC center and an approach or departure center? I don't see any clear indication of which is which on sectionals. There are boxes saying who to contact for approach, but nothing that shows where the handoffs between terminal control and center usually occur. Is there a general rule? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Boundaries between Approach/Departure and Center
Ronnie writes:
I don't know, but I'm afarid we'll get there one day as the reaches of the federal government continues to grow. There is a control tower being built right now at my local airport. What's the reason? It's being built to help you, of course. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Ronnie wrote: I don't know, but I'm afarid we'll get there one day as the reaches of the federal government continues to grow. There is a control tower being built right now at my local airport. What airport? What's the reason? It may have nothing to do with the federal government. Most new towers these days are built because the owners of the airport(city, county, etc) want one. |
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JOBS
Newps wrote: Ronnie wrote: I don't know, but I'm afarid we'll get there one day as the reaches of the federal government continues to grow. There is a control tower being built right now at my local airport. What airport? What's the reason? It may have nothing to do with the federal government. Most new towers these days are built because the owners of the airport(city, county, etc) want one. |
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Mxsmanic wrote: What determines the boundaries between airspace managed by an en-route ATC center and an approach or departure center? I don't see any clear indication of which is which on sectionals. There are boxes saying who to contact for approach, but nothing that shows where the handoffs between terminal control and center usually occur. Is there a general rule? Why do you care if you're talking to approach or center? -Robert, CFII |
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Robert M. Gary writes:
Why do you care if you're talking to approach or center? I want to know whom to contact if I'm not already in communication with ATC. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Call Microsoft.
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Mxsmanic wrote: Robert M. Gary writes: Why do you care if you're talking to approach or center? I want to know whom to contact if I'm not already in communication with ATC. That's only an issue in the sim world. I guess you have to worry if the controller is taking a dump when you call? Of course I guess he may have his laptop with him. -Robert |
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Boundaries between Approach/Departure and Center
Robert M. Gary writes:
That's only an issue in the sim world. No, it's an issue in the real world, too, if you are flying VFR. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote: Robert M. Gary writes: That's only an issue in the sim world. No, it's an issue in the real world, too, if you are flying VFR. It's not an issue. IFR or VFR. A real pilot knows this. This information is in many books. Start reading chief. |
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