BRS for emergencies

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:36:16 -0700, Ian
wrote:


But remember the Idaflieg survey which found no evidence that anyone
had ever made the decision to use a parachute from a glider below
500m and survived.

I'm pretty sure that someone misread that survey. I personally know
three people who bailed out of a glider below 1.000 ft and survived.




Bye
Andreas

On 17 Sep, 13:33, Andreas Maurer wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:36:16 -0700, Ian
wrote:

But remember the Idaflieg survey which found no evidence that anyone
had ever made the decision to use a parachute from a glider below
500m and survived.

I'm pretty sure that someone misread that survey. I personally know
three people who bailed out of a glider below 1.000 ft and survived.

As I recall, it was the "made the decision" bit which was critical -
there were people who had bailed out below 500m, but they had all made
the decision to do so while higher. However, I'd welcome correction
or, better still, a copy of the report. Anyone?

Ian

As I recall, it was the "made the decision" bit which was critical -
there were people who had bailed out below 500m, but they had all made
the decision to do so while higher. However, I'd welcome correction
or, better still, a copy of the report. Anyone?

I recall my instructor telling me about a guy who got winched with
disconnected controls (or maybe they jammed during the launch?). By
the time he got to the top of the launch he was unstrapped and the
canopy was gone. He jumped and survived. The decision to jump was
obviously made well below 500m.

Bartek

That's a different scenario. It sounds like this guy had some time to get
ready and initiate the bailout while his ship was still climbing and under
some control. That's a lot different than having a mid-air at 1,000' AGL.

Mike Schumann

"brtlmj" wrote in message
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As I recall, it was the "made the decision" bit which was critical -
there were people who had bailed out below 500m, but they had all made
the decision to do so while higher. However, I'd welcome correction
or, better still, a copy of the report. Anyone?

I recall my instructor telling me about a guy who got winched with
disconnected controls (or maybe they jammed during the launch?). By
the time he got to the top of the launch he was unstrapped and the
canopy was gone. He jumped and survived. The decision to jump was
obviously made well below 500m.

Bartek





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That's a different scenario. It sounds like this guy had some time to get
ready and initiate the bailout while his ship was still climbing and under
some control. That's a lot different than having a mid-air at 1,000' AGL.

Absolutely. When he realized he had to jump he was going UP, not
falling down. It was just an example.
Still, I can easily imagine someone having a low - level midair and
then having quite w few minutes to decide whether to jump or not.
One's glider does not have to disintegrate.

Bartek

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:49:13 -0700, Ian
wrote:


As I recall, it was the "made the decision" bit which was critical -
there were people who had bailed out below 500m, but they had all made
the decision to do so while higher. However, I'd welcome correction
or, better still, a copy of the report. Anyone?

I only counted people who *made the decision* below 1.000 ft. One was
a winch launch in an ASW-19 with disconnected elevator, the other two
were Ka-8's involved in a midair immediately after a winch launch.


One the other hand, I also had the doubtful pleasure to watch a pilot
who made his decision to bail out at about 3.000 ft after the wing of
his Lo-100 disintegrated during aerobatics. His parachute opened at
less than 100 ft over the ground. He survived uninjured.




Bye
Andreas

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, brtlmj wrote:
That's a different scenario. It sounds like this guy had some time to get
ready and initiate the bailout while his ship was still climbing and under
some control. That's a lot different than having a mid-air at 1,000' AGL.

Absolutely. When he realized he had to jump he was going UP, not
falling down. It was just an example.
Still, I can easily imagine someone having a low - level midair and
then having quite w few minutes to decide whether to jump or not.
One's glider does not have to disintegrate.

Bartek

IIRC, there was quite an endorsement of Irving parachutes some years
ago when a pilot bailed out of his fluttering Yugo Open Cirrus at
Inkpen at 100ft. 100kts horizontal component is needed at that
altitude..

Frank Whiteley