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  #51  
Old November 23rd 06, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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Only because the areas left above 1200 feet are too small
and isolated.


"Newps" wrote in message
news |
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace
Class
| G.
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| Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.


  #52  
Old November 23rd 06, 05:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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security, the new federal buildings have no shrubbery close
to the buildings where a bomb could be hidden. They do not
have passengers and baggage.

It is a change to increase security.



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ups.com...
| All over the country, towers are being relocated, still
on
| the airport, but in a secure new building.
|
| Federal construction money. PORK!!!
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  #53  
Old November 23rd 06, 05:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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simply?



"Newps" wrote in message
news | Towers are being built on a pretty standard schedule. We
just went thru
| this process here. No tower is being built simply for
security reasons.
|
| Doug wrote:
|
| All over the country, towers are being relocated, still
on
| the airport, but in a secure new building.
|
|
| Federal construction money. PORK!!!
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  #54  
Old November 23rd 06, 07:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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In article ,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

Wichita, Kansas tower was removed from terminal building and
located in a secure building with no place to hide a bomb.

Topeka, Kansas, the tower was moved into the center of the
airport behind the fences.

All over the country, towers are being relocated, still on
the airport, but in a secure new building.


None are "remote" towers.

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  #55  
Old November 23rd 06, 01:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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karl gruber wrote:
"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
All ATC facilities were moved to remote locations [as much
as possible] including airport towers.



OK, I'll bite. Name ONE remote tower.

Not the local control, but a lot of the TRACONs which were
in the tower radar rooms have been moved. For example,
BWI's approach controllers are over 50 miles away in the
consolidated Potomac TRACON (which is located in Vint
Hill Farm, an old Army property). It provides control
from Richmond on up to halfway to Philly.
  #56  
Old November 23rd 06, 01:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Ron Natalie
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Newps wrote:


Jim Macklin wrote:
You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace Class G.



Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.


People do it all the time. You could never get off a
field without a control zone (er um, surface area of
controlled airspace designated for an airport) with out it.
  #57  
Old November 23rd 06, 03:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Bob Noel
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In article ,
Ron Natalie wrote:

OK, I'll bite. Name ONE remote tower.

Not the local control, but a lot of the TRACONs which were
in the tower radar rooms have been moved. For example,
BWI's approach controllers are over 50 miles away in the
consolidated Potomac TRACON (which is located in Vint
Hill Farm, an old Army property). It provides control
from Richmond on up to halfway to Philly.


"remote TRACONS" have been in the works for years, waaaay
before 911. The FAA was looking to consoladate facilities in order
to save money. The military has nothing nada zippo to do with it.

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  #58  
Old November 23rd 06, 03:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Jim Macklin wrote:
Only because the areas left above 1200 feet are too small
and isolated.


Not west of the Mississippi.


  #59  
Old November 23rd 06, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:


Wichita, Kansas tower was removed from terminal building and
located in a secure building with no place to hide a bomb.

Topeka, Kansas, the tower was moved into the center of the
airport behind the fences.

All over the country, towers are being relocated, still on
the airport, but in a secure new building.



None are "remote" towers.


And all were scheduled long ago for replacement.
  #60  
Old November 23rd 06, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Newps
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Ron Natalie wrote:

Newps wrote:



Jim Macklin wrote:

You can fly under IFR rules in uncontrolled airspace Class G.




Sure, but nobody does because it is too impractical.



People do it all the time. You could never get off a
field without a control zone (er um, surface area of
controlled airspace designated for an airport) with out it.


That's not what he meant.
 




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