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Is the 787 a failure ?
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
... I know I sure have fewer regrets than you cosmo folks. And, I like it that way. Now, I've got to go shovel up after my mule. Christopher A. Young Any illusion of culture Alistair Cooke may have given us went down the loo when we saw Benny Hill and Mr. Bean. |
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Is the 787 a failure ?
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:50:31 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message om... "Mr.B1ack" wrote: And Boeing didn't spin fast enough to prevent the perception of the 787 becoming that of a flaming deathtrap. Who has died aboard a 787? Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to stall and fall out of the sky without informing its crew? jsw Like the nut holding the wheel of the 350z, the pilots of that plane were awfully close to brain dead to allow that to happen. They were just playing a video game - NOT FLYING THE PLANE. All the warnings were there except for the indicators on the instrument panel. |
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... On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:50:31 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4ZqdnVrwRseNoZrMnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@earthlink. com... "Mr.B1ack" wrote: And Boeing didn't spin fast enough to prevent the perception of the 787 becoming that of a flaming deathtrap. Who has died aboard a 787? Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to stall and fall out of the sky without informing its crew? jsw Like the nut holding the wheel of the 350z, the pilots of that plane were awfully close to brain dead to allow that to happen. They were just playing a video game - NOT FLYING THE PLANE. All the warnings were there except for the indicators on the instrument panel. All the warnings were NOT there, and the ones they had were misleading. The stall indicator shut off below a minimum airspeed and came on when they correctly put the nose down and gained speed. The stalled plane remained fairly level and controllable in pitch as it fell at a very low forward airspeed, a condition the FCS apparently didn't understand. Roll control was harder and kept them occupied. They advanced the throttles to TakeOff/Go-Around power and kept the nose slightly high, which SHOULD have been the proper procedure if they'd had more airspeed. At night in a storm they were purely on IFR, with no visual cues and airspeed indicators that had been and could still be(?) reading low only because they had iced up. |
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Is the 787 a failure ?
On 1/29/2013 8:50 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Max Boot" wrote in message .. . You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in the world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride from your shack. The most egregious example I've heard of that ****ant cultural snobbery was from Indian expats who couldn't understand how their sophisticated ancient culture had been overtaken by Northern Europeans who lived in wattle and daub (mud) huts until very recently, by their time frame. What cultural snobbery are you ****ing and moaning about? Are you saying that you resent people who are well traveled and knowledgeable about other parts of the world telling you what a benighted bumpkin you are? The average American *is* a benighted bumpkin. It's the height of the most despicable and dangerous arrogance that the US presumes to dictate to the rest of the world how things ought to be, and the vast majority of Americans have no ****ing clue about how any other part of the world actually is. It's exactly that kind of ignorance mixed with arrogance that produced the two monumentally disastrous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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On 1/29/2013 7:42 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Max Boot" wrote in message .. . On 1/29/2013 7:04 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Jim Wilkins wrote: Has Airbus fixed the faults that allowed a functional A330 to stall and fall out of the sky without informing its crew? jsw You are the classic example of why cosmopolitan Europeans and Asians mock Americans: a bumpkin, a rube, someone who thinks everything in the world worth seeing and knowing is within a two hour mule ride from your shack. http://www.bea.aero/en/enquetes/flig...t.final.en.php CVR 2h 11m 43.0 "qu'est-ce qui se passe ? je ne sais pas je sais pas ce qui se passe" "on a tout perdu le contrôle de l'avion on comprend rien on a tout tenté" It doesn't take much to bring out the angry frustrated child in you. Struck a nerve, I see. I'm guessing you've never traveled. In fact, it's all but a certainty. |
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"Max Boot" wrote in message
... On 1/29/2013 8:50 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote: So Europeans are fully justified in crucifying Boeing over a battery that harmed no one, but Americans MUST NOT embarrassingly mention the fatal crash of an Airbus that was in perfect working condition when it smashed into the ocean? Such fragile egos! |
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I learned all my English culture and manners from
Monty Python's Flying Circus. My horse likes to watch Mr. Rogers' Neigh...... borhood. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... Any illusion of culture Alistair Cooke may have given us went down the loo when we saw Benny Hill and Mr. Bean. |
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On 1/29/2013 11:40 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Max Boot" wrote in message ... On 1/29/2013 8:50 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote: So Europeans are fully justified in crucifying Boeing over a battery that harmed no one, but Americans MUST NOT embarrassingly mention the fatal crash of an Airbus that was in perfect working condition when it smashed into the ocean? Such fragile egos! Okay, so you're not just an untraveled rube and bumpkin, you're also hyper-nationalistic and sensitive about being an untraveled rube. I haven't seen anything to suggest Europeans are "crucifying" [sic] Boeing over the battery problem. You seem to be trying to downplay it. It's a serious problem, and it has led to the *American* FAA grounding all the planes. While ice in the pitot tubes is suspected of producing the faulty airspeed readings, the main cause of the crash of the Air France A330 was pilot error. They might conceivably have safely flown the plane either back to Brazil or on to France. By contrast, if a battery fire in a 787 ever spread, the plane most likely would crash. The battery problem is serious and needs to be corrected, and not pooh-poohed by insanely nationalistic Americans who stupidly read too much into a Boeing-Airbus competition. Also...Americans need to get out of their general provincialism. |
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"Max Boot" wrote in message
... On 1/29/2013 7:42 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote: Struck a nerve, I see. I'm guessing you've never traveled. In fact, it's all but a certainty. Don't hire yourself out as a detective. I wore out a set of Reifen travelling around Europe as a field sevice repairman for two years. |
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