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Old October 3rd 11, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Quaalude
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Hani Hanjour, the pilot of Flight 77, was so incompetent he could not
fly a Cessna in August, but in September managed to fly a 767 at
excessive speed into a spiraling, 270-degree descent and a level impact
of the first floor of the Pentagon, on the only side that was virtually
empty and had been hardened to withstand a terrorist attack, merely
demonstrates that people can do almost anything once they set their
minds to it.

(Un)True?
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Old October 3rd 11, 05:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
Quaalude wrote:

Hani Hanjour, the pilot of Flight 77, was so incompetent he could not
fly a Cessna in August, but in September managed to fly a 767 at
excessive speed into a spiraling, 270-degree descent and a level impact
of the first floor of the Pentagon, on the only side that was virtually
empty and had been hardened to withstand a terrorist attack, merely
demonstrates that people can do almost anything once they set their
minds to it.

(Un)True?


Even you, "Quaalude," could fly that pattern. After all, you don't have
to take off or land, or even reconfigure the aircraft. No real skill
required!
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Old October 3rd 11, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tom[_15_]
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Hanjour


The instructors at the airfield in Maryland said, "It was like he had
hardly even ever driven a car. He could not fly at all."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/04/us/a-trainee-noted-for-incompetence.html

And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.

Perhaps you need to remove you head from Mary's drums, Orval, the
banging has advanced your senility.
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Old October 3rd 11, 05:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Quaalude
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:47:05 -0400, Tom wrote:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Hanjour


The instructors at the airfield in Maryland said, "It was like he had
hardly even ever driven a car. He could not fly at all."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/04/us/a-trainee-noted-for-incompetence.html

And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.

Perhaps you need to remove you head from Mary's drums, Orval, the
banging has advanced your senility.


Pilots for Truth:

"Our conclusion is, the maneuver looks possible, for guys like us. But
for Hani? Unlikely. He either got REALLY lucky, or someone/something
else was flying that plane. Sure wish we had clear video of a 757
hitting the pentagon to silence all these "Conspiracy theorists". They
want us to believe the pentagon is only covered by a parking gate
camera? C'mon..."
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Old October 3rd 11, 06:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tom[_15_]
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:58:36 -0400, Quaalude wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:47:05 -0400, Tom wrote:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Hanjour


The instructors at the airfield in Maryland said, "It was like he had
hardly even ever driven a car. He could not fly at all."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/04/us/a-trainee-noted-for-incompetence.html

And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.

Perhaps you need to remove you head from Mary's drums, Orval, the
banging has advanced your senility.


Pilots for Truth:

"Our conclusion is, the maneuver looks possible, for guys like us. But
for Hani? Unlikely. He either got REALLY lucky, or someone/something
else was flying that plane. Sure wish we had clear video of a 757
hitting the pentagon to silence all these "Conspiracy theorists". They
want us to believe the pentagon is only covered by a parking gate
camera? C'mon..."


The reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with
the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow
the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half
the distance of its wingspan ¡X until speed is drastically reduced,
which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

Flight 77 "hit the Pentagon" at cruising speed.

So speaketh an aeronautical engineer.
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Old October 5th 11, 02:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Oct 3, 12:13*pm, Tom wrote:

The reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with
the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow
the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half
the distance of its wingspan — until speed is drastically reduced,
which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

Flight 77 "hit the Pentagon" at cruising speed.

So speaketh an aeronautical engineer.


Looks like another alumnus of Coldine University.
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Old October 3rd 11, 06:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Quaalude wrote:

Pilots for Truth:

"Our conclusion is, the maneuver looks possible, for guys like us. But
for Hani? Unlikely. He either got REALLY lucky, or someone/something
else was flying that plane. Sure wish we had clear video of a 757
hitting the pentagon to silence all these "Conspiracy theorists". They
want us to believe the pentagon is only covered by a parking gate
camera? C'mon..."


Babbling nut case.



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Old October 4th 11, 04:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Babbling nut case.


Could be Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posting to r.a.p.
:-)
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Old October 3rd 11, 06:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Orval Fairbairn
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In article , Tom
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Hanjour


The instructors at the airfield in Maryland said, "It was like he had
hardly even ever driven a car. He could not fly at all."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/04/us/a-trainee-noted-for-incompetence.html

And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.


First of all, if that maneuver would "press the limits of even the most
experienced test pilot," I would have to question both his experience
and expertise. It didn't take much ability to perform a diving 270
degree kamikaze turn. The Kamikazes in WW-II did it all the time, and
with only rudimentary training.

Only a fool would arge otherwise.



Perhaps you need to remove you head from Mary's drums, Orval, the
banging has advanced your senility.


Obviously, neither "Tom" nor "Quaalude" has ever operated the controls
of a plane, or they would not have posted such utter nonsense.
 




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