Cobra bottle jack failure

On Oct 28, 9:43*pm, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
My comet trailer had the scissor jack arrangement, and I didn't much
like that (after it failed) so I made this instead:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP2AD8rtdpA

That's really nice, but:
- won't work on sandy surfaces (like at my home gliderport),
- won't work with really heavy gliders,
- doesn't provide height adjustment

The hydraulic jack is used to adjust the height during assembly;
I insert the wings, look down the wing-pin holes, and move the
fuselage up or down a hair until its perfectly lined up.

But nice for your glider !
Best Regards, Dave

On Oct 29, 9:17*am, Udo wrote:
$25.00 plus some fun working on this project will get you this
hydraulic
scissors jackwww.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Construction/Scissor_Jack/Scissor_Jack.html

Nice Udo. Can you make a kit, adapting that bottle-jack
to make a drop-in replacement for Cobra owners ?
See ya, Dave

Dave,
the short answer is no.
Also the jack dimension is slightly different.
Udo

On Oct 29, 9:49*am, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Oct 29, 9:17*am, Udo wrote:

$25.00 plus some fun working on this project will get you this
hydraulic
scissors jackwww.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Construction/Scissor_Jack/Scissor_Jack.html

Nice Udo. Can you make a kit, adapting that bottle-jack
to make a drop-in replacement for Cobra owners ?
See ya, Dave

On Oct 28, 2:53*pm, db_sonic wrote:
I had a failed jack that I took apart to see why it was not
maintaining the extended position. In my case the ramp would slowly
lower back to collapsed postition, which besides annoying, can be a
danger to the fuselage. *Turns out that it was the synthetic plunger
on the main piston leaking. *So even under pressure the oil would seep
past the plunger and the piston slowly looses position till it
eventually collapses. *The culprit does not seem to be any of the
various ball-bearings in the base of the jack.

Anybody know if a replacement plunger could be obtained. *I am sure
its much cheaper than a new jack.

I took a look at a Cobra jack for a friend. It's not actually a
"bottle jack" but more likely a replacement part for a "floor jack" -
those long handled things on caster wheels you see in auto shops. The
giveaway is the trunnions on the hydraulic cylinder which are not seen
on mere bottle jacks.

In the car jack application, "leak down" isn't an issue since it just
has to hold long enough to put jack stands under the car after which
the jack is lowered and removed. That makes me think that you will
never get it to stop leaking.

Scissor jacks are terrible since they have the least mechanical
advantage when you need it most. The best solution I've seen is
scissor jacks with the crank handle replaced with a large nut which
the owner turns with a humongous slow speed cordless electric wrench
bought specifically for the purpose.

Bill D

"bildan" wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 2:53 pm, db_sonic wrote:
I had a failed jack that I took apart to see why it was not
maintaining the extended position. In my case the ramp would slowly
lower back to collapsed postition, which besides annoying, can be a
danger to the fuselage. Turns out that it was the synthetic plunger
on the main piston leaking. So even under pressure the oil would seep
past the plunger and the piston slowly looses position till it
eventually collapses. The culprit does not seem to be any of the
various ball-bearings in the base of the jack.

Anybody know if a replacement plunger could be obtained. I am sure
its much cheaper than a new jack.

I took a look at a Cobra jack for a friend. It's not actually a
"bottle jack" but more likely a replacement part for a "floor jack" -
those long handled things on caster wheels you see in auto shops. The
giveaway is the trunnions on the hydraulic cylinder which are not seen
on mere bottle jacks.

In the car jack application, "leak down" isn't an issue since it just
has to hold long enough to put jack stands under the car after which
the jack is lowered and removed. That makes me think that you will
never get it to stop leaking.

Scissor jacks are terrible since they have the least mechanical
advantage when you need it most. The best solution I've seen is
scissor jacks with the crank handle replaced with a large nut which
the owner turns with a humongous slow speed cordless electric wrench
bought specifically for the purpose.

Bill D


About a year ago, I started a similar thread. I got three responses to an
offer to do rebuilds. I couldn't do it for a lot less than a "Cobra"
replacement.

The hydraulic in a cheap car jack is similar, but not exacly the same as a
"Cobra". A custom bushing or two would do the conversion. To make it worse,
Cobra has changed the dimensions at least once.

So--if you can do your own machining, you can easily replace the hydraulic.
You also could "clean up" the innards of the "Cobra" jack and it would work
better.
But compared to other stuff in gliding, the "Cobra" replacement is so cheap
that it may not be worth the effort.

Hartley Falbaum

On Oct 28, 1:53*pm, db_sonic wrote:
I had a failed jack that I took apart to see why it was not
maintaining the extended position. In my case the ramp would slowly
lower back to collapsed postition, which besides annoying, can be a
danger to the fuselage. *Turns out that it was the synthetic plunger
on the main piston leaking. *So even under pressure the oil would seep
past the plunger and the piston slowly looses position till it
eventually collapses. *The culprit does not seem to be any of the
various ball-bearings in the base of the jack.

Anybody know if a replacement plunger could be obtained. *I am sure
its much cheaper than a new jack.

Unscrew (remove) the bleed down screw dig out the old oring replace
with a new one. Worked for me.