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Old August 3rd 06, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4122187
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Old August 3rd 06, 10:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Tomatohead" wrote in message
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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4122187


Typical "news" story. "Newsflash, Summer brings hot weather, details at 10"

When a reporter experiences real life, that's a news story. If some poor
schlub on the plane had called the reporter after the fact and reported "the
plane we flew from Chicago was hot" the very same reporter and editors that
published this story would have laughed them off the phone.

What quirk of nature caused only the reporter's aircraft to become heat
soaked while sitting in 100 degree weather?

The more news you read, the less you wil know.

--
Scott


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Old August 4th 06, 02:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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tscottme wrote:
What quirk of nature caused only the reporter's aircraft to become heat
soaked while sitting in 100 degree weather?


Did you actually read the story?
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Old August 4th 06, 07:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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tscottme wrote:
What quirk of nature caused only the reporter's aircraft to become heat
soaked while sitting in 100 degree weather?


The fact that the APU was malfunctioning, thus no cabin ventilation until
engine start-up, and that the very engine start-up which was instrumental
in preventing slowly boiling the passengers to perfection was delayed for
over two hours.

So, it wasn't simply a hot day, it was a very unprofeesional handling of a
problem with an airplane - by the airline, mind, it seems the crew did the
best they could.

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Old August 4th 06, 01:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Anno v. Heimburg" wrote in message
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tscottme wrote:
What quirk of nature caused only the reporter's aircraft to become heat
soaked while sitting in 100 degree weather?


The fact that the APU was malfunctioning, thus no cabin ventilation until
engine start-up, and that the very engine start-up which was instrumental
in preventing slowly boiling the passengers to perfection was delayed for
over two hours.

So, it wasn't simply a hot day, it was a very unprofeesional handling of a
problem with an airplane - by the airline, mind, it seems the crew did the
best they could.



Most newspapers don't give this much space to a bank robbery or a murder at
convenience store..

The newspaper could have at least posted a poll question to see if its
readers think sitting on a hot plane was:
A. uncomfortable
B. potentially dangerous
C. George Bush's fault.

--
Scott


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Old August 4th 06, 11:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Robert M. Gary
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Anno v. Heimburg wrote:
tscottme wrote:
What quirk of nature caused only the reporter's aircraft to become heat
soaked while sitting in 100 degree weather?


The fact that the APU was malfunctioning, thus no cabin ventilation until
engine start-up, and that the very engine start-up which was instrumental
in preventing slowly boiling the passengers to perfection was delayed for
over two hours.


But busted APUs are very common. You can bet that United's facility in
Pheonix handles this situation better. The article never explained why
the ground air supply was not sufficient. Does Chicago not have
sufficient facilities to pump air?

-Robert

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Old August 5th 06, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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That's Daley's down, nothing but hot air unfortunately.

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Anno v. Heimburg wrote:

tscottme wrote:

What quirk of nature caused only the reporter's aircraft to become heat
soaked while sitting in 100 degree weather?


The fact that the APU was malfunctioning, thus no cabin ventilation until
engine start-up, and that the very engine start-up which was instrumental
in preventing slowly boiling the passengers to perfection was delayed for
over two hours.



But busted APUs are very common. You can bet that United's facility in
Pheonix handles this situation better. The article never explained why
the ground air supply was not sufficient. Does Chicago not have
sufficient facilities to pump air?

-Robert

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Old August 5th 06, 03:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Judah
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Default 777 Hell in Chicago

"tscottme" wrote in
:

Most newspapers don't give this much space to a bank robbery or a murder
at convenience store..

The newspaper could have at least posted a poll question to see if its
readers think sitting on a hot plane was:
A. uncomfortable
B. potentially dangerous
C. George Bush's fault.


I was delayed in a plane recently with a failed APU. It wasn't one of the 100
degree days, but it got pretty damned hot and uncomfortable in the cabin
until we reached altitude. I've been on a few planes with failed APUs
recently, and usually they pump air in externally at the gate. For some
reason they didn't do it on this plane, so it was hot as soon as we boarded.

We sat in the runup pad ("penalty box") for about a while, and then the
captain announced that we would be held up for about 45 minutes and he would
have to shut down one of the engines and the air conditioner because of fuel
requirements. After a few people got up to get water from the flight
attendants, they had the balls to start turning people away saying that there
was no water left. (Of course, somehow during the flight after it had cooled
off and they were doing their serving, somehow they "miraculously" had
water.)

The heat was uncomfortable. The situation was potentially dangerous (if
nothing else from potential rioting). And it was without a doubt George
Bush's fault. (Isn't everything?)
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Old August 5th 06, 10:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Judah wrote:
After a few people got up to get water from the flight
attendants, they had the balls to start turning people away saying that there
was no water left. (Of course, somehow during the flight after it had cooled
off and they were doing their serving, somehow they "miraculously" had
water.)


Maybe they can't take off without some minimum amount of potable water?

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Old August 5th 06, 02:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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tscottme wrote:
"Tomatohead" wrote in message
...

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4122187



Typical "news" story. "Newsflash, Summer brings hot weather, details at 10"

When a reporter experiences real life, that's a news story. If some poor
schlub on the plane had called the reporter after the fact and reported "the
plane we flew from Chicago was hot" the very same reporter and editors that
published this story would have laughed them off the phone.

What quirk of nature caused only the reporter's aircraft to become heat
soaked while sitting in 100 degree weather?

The more news you read, the less you wil know.

The story seemed quite straight-forward to me.

I had a recent such experience on Southwest at Phoenix and they didn't
even have the courtesy to provide any explanation. But, it distracted
the flight attendants sufficiently that they didn't give the cabin
safety announcement until after takeoff (a clear and blatant FAR violation).
 




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