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Edwards air show B-1 speed record attempt
The Edwards AFB air show on October 25 and 26 will feature attempts to
set numerous world speed records with a B-1B. The speed runs will include low altitude passes over the show area. A release of 84 inert 500-lb bombs in view of the crowd will conclude the B-1 flying on both days. http://www.edwards.af.mil/oh_2003/do...vent-info.html -- Paul Hirose |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:32:00 GMT, Paul Hirose
wrote: The Edwards AFB air show on October 25 and 26 will feature attempts to set numerous world speed records with a B-1B. The speed runs will include low altitude passes over the show area. A release of 84 inert 500-lb bombs in view of the crowd will conclude the B-1 flying on both days. http://www.edwards.af.mil/oh_2003/do...vent-info.html How in the world is a B-1B going to set *any* speed records? Al Minyard |
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"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
How in the world is a B-1B going to set *any* speed records? Not absolute records. It already has a bunch in its weight class for speed over particular courses, speed with certain payloads, etc. I expect the plan to improve on those and add some more. The B-1's current records are listed here, along with records by other aircraft in the same general categories. I imagine they'll be trying to take some away from the Tu-160. http://www.b1b.wpafb.af.mil/pages/pdf/b1_records.pdf -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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Alan Minyard wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:32:00 GMT, Paul Hirose wrote: The Edwards AFB air show on October 25 and 26 will feature attempts to set numerous world speed records with a B-1B. The speed runs will include low altitude passes over the show area. A release of 84 inert 500-lb bombs in view of the crowd will conclude the B-1 flying on both days. http://www.edwards.af.mil/oh_2003/do...vent-info.html How in the world is a B-1B going to set *any* speed records? Probably the same way it set the numerous speed records it has held since 1987 and later; for closed circuits of 1,000km, 2,000km (both in class C-1q, 150,000 to 200,000 kg. t/o wgt.) and 5,000km (unlimited wgt. class) with payloads varying from zero to 30,000 kg., for 10,000km with zero payload (unlimited wgt.) , and for around the world eastbound (refueled in flight, unlimited wgt.). They might be looking to take a few more of the 10,000km records with payload from the B-52H which currently holds them, or else boost some of the 5,000km records or the around the world records they already hold. See http://records.fai.org/general_aviat...p?id1=21&id2=4 for the current records. The other option, which sounds more like what they're talking about with the "speed runs," would be to try and set a low altitude speed record in its weight class; although AFAIK the FAI no longer recognizes low altitude speed records per se owing to the danger. Guy |
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The local civilian newspaper has an article about the upcoming B-1
speed record attempts. The runs will be in two weight classes (on different days), each day including 100-, 500-, and 1000-km closed course runs, apparently at 500 feet. "The bomber will maintain speeds of 0.9 to 0.95 Mach, or nearly 700 mph, while skimming along at 500 feet above the ground." There will also be speed runs on 3- and 15-km straight line courses. The 3-km pass will be at 400 feet and .95 Mach. The 15-km pass will be at 15,000 and 1.2 Mach. Each day will conclude with the bomb load being dropped on the range about four miles from the air show grounds. http://www.avpress.com/n/susty1.hts -- Paul Hirose |
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They might be looking to take a few more of the
10,000km records with payload from the B-52H which currently holds them Lots of luck, those records maxed out the B-52H unrefueled range, unless they've installed new engines in that Bone making it 50% more efficient I don't think they've got a chance. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:56:42 GMT, "Thomas Schoene"
wrote: "Alan Minyard" wrote in message How in the world is a B-1B going to set *any* speed records? Not absolute records. It already has a bunch in its weight class for speed over particular courses, speed with certain payloads, etc. I expect the plan to improve on those and add some more. The B-1's current records are listed here, along with records by other aircraft in the same general categories. I imagine they'll be trying to take some away from the Tu-160. http://www.b1b.wpafb.af.mil/pages/pdf/b1_records.pdf I wish they'd get the fire to break more records these days like they did back in the fifties and sixties. Hell some of the "records" out there are ones that any line aircraft could break easily if not actually performing *beyond* them regularly. |
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Oh, crap! The table uses that French system with the km/hour I can never make
sense of! -- Charlie Springer |
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"Regnirps" wrote in message ... Oh, crap! The table uses that French system with the km/hour I can never make sense of! -- Charlie Springer I think you mean that nearly universal system with the km/hour. Try: http://www.teaching-english-in-japan...ion/kilometers or, if you don't wish to learn anything, just want to convert: http://www.escapeartist.com/Miles_Ki...Converter.html Cheers. |
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BUFDRVR wrote:
They might be looking to take a few more of the 10,000km records with payload from the B-52H which currently holds them Lots of luck, those records maxed out the B-52H unrefueled range, unless they've installed new engines in that Bone making it 50% more efficient I don't think they've got a chance. From Paul Hirose's post it appears that they aren't going for the 10,000 km records. Personally, I'd think that capturing the record for 10,000km at 1 and maybe 2,000 kg. payloads might be doable, given ideal conditions and very precise flying rather than any improvement in engine sfc. But maybe the 10,000km/no payload record was already on the edge of what could be physically achieved, and there's no room for improvement. Guy |
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