IFR w/pax under Single-Pilot/Single Aircraft 135

Wow, great info. Start out VFR and go from there. I wonder if that's
still the case, hmm. Thanks!

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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Wow, great info. Start out VFR and go from there. I wonder if that's
still the case, hmm. Thanks!


I didn't read the link, but it appears that your FSDO has a lot to say about
it. They have zero downside in saying no, and can screw up their careers if
they approve it and something happens.

Which way will they go? You better be make GOOD buddies with them, or have
some other leverage.

"John Clonts" wrote in message
...

I was thinking that Richard Kaplan did that in his P210, but I haven't
seen any posts on usenet from him in quite a while....yes, here it is (or
google for "kaplan 135")...

Yes, I did it and it is still permissible.


See FAR 135.163 redundant alternator/gyro requirements. There is also
an FAR requiring a 3-axis autopilot if the operations will be single-pilot
and requiring an approved engine trend-monitoring program for single-engine
aircraft. I did all this and had single-pilot, single-engine piston, IFR
night/day known-icing approval.

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Richard Kaplan

www.flyimc.com

"Richard Kaplan" wrote in
news:1110257401.d3fd2076e1b352748b3e4e1081056f91@t eranews:

Yes, I did it and it is still permissible.

See FAR 135.163 redundant alternator/gyro requirements. There is
also an FAR requiring a 3-axis autopilot if the operations will be
single-pilot and requiring an approved engine trend-monitoring program
for single-engine aircraft. I did all this and had single-pilot,
single-engine piston, IFR night/day known-icing approval.

You're right, I was thinking of 10 or more pax, for some reason.

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Regards,

Stan

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." B. Franklin

Legally, you can do it with a proper autopilot ( per 135), practically,
good luck finding insurance.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Legally, you can do it with a proper autopilot ( per 135), practically,
good luck finding insurance.


The insurance problem has nothing to do with IFR operations. Your best bet
is to go naked -- carry minimum liability and don't cover the hull. Hull
alone is usually more than half the cost of the insurance -- oddly, the
liability is not much more than it is for private aviation. It is the only
way you have any chance for profitability at all.

I think I read that you can do it with dual electrical/vacuum systems

Bravo8500 wrote:

Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.

Bravo8500 wrote:
Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers
in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.

You can do it with dual electrical/vacuum systems like in the Cirrus
SR22 and others. The other single engines like the Cessna 172/210 can
only be flown IFR with freight.

For airplanes under FAR 135 IFR a SIC is ALWAYS required, now that
being said you may apply for "autopilot authorization" that will let
you use an autopilot in the place of a SIC.

In the case of trying to purchase a 135 Cert, you would need to upgrade
the cert to a full cert, then leave the management team in place,
change the company ownership then over 12 - 18 months you can change
the management team members. You can find the % of the management that
must stay on in the FAR's.

If you have more questions after you read FAR 135 AND FAR 119 feel free
to give me a call @ 270-823-4782

Jon

Jon wrote:

You can do it with dual electrical/vacuum systems like in the Cirrus
SR22 and others.

The SR22 has dual vacuum pumps? Or are you saying dual electrical system
and one vacuum pump?

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Peter













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Peter,

Or are you saying dual electrical system
and one vacuum pump?


He's saying dual electrical, period. Vacuum sucks ;-)

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)