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Old February 24th 21, 09:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/
Discus amongst yourselves...
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Old February 24th 21, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8, wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/
Discus amongst yourselves...


Dave, it's time for you to stop complaining and just admit electric is simple.
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Old February 24th 21, 11:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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On 2/24/2021 4:51 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8, wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/
Discuss amongst yourselves...


Dave, it's time for you to stop complaining and just admit electric is simple.


You're absolutely right Darryl!
After all, how hard could it be???


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Old February 25th 21, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On 2/24/21 4:13 PM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On 2/24/2021 4:51 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/

Discuss amongst yourselves...


Dave, it's time for you to stop complaining and just admit electric is
simple.


You're absolutely right Darryl!
After all, how hard could it be???



Simple and ultra reliable. You gonna be dragging your old faithful
Antares down to the Seniors this year?
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Old February 25th 21, 02:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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On 2/24/2021 8:55 PM, kinsell wrote:
On 2/24/21 4:13 PM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On 2/24/2021 4:51 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/

Discuss amongst yourselves...

Dave, it's time for you to stop complaining and just admit electric
is simple.


You're absolutely right Darryl!
After all, how hard could it be???


Simple and ultra reliable.* You gonna be dragging your old faithful
Antares down to the Seniors this year?


After it failed during the last two comps I took it to?
Drive for days, fly a few times, then drive for days home after it breaks?
I don't think so...

Anyway, no vaccination yet so no travel in any case.
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Old February 25th 21, 04:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Dave Nadler wrote on 2/24/2021 6:08 PM:
On 2/24/2021 8:55 PM, kinsell wrote:
On 2/24/21 4:13 PM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On 2/24/2021 4:51 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8, wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/
Discuss amongst yourselves...

Dave, it's time for you to stop complaining and just admit electric is simple.

You're absolutely right Darryl!
After all, how hard could it be???


Simple and ultra reliable.* You gonna be dragging your old faithful Antares down to the
Seniors this year?


After it failed during the last two comps I took it to?
Drive for days, fly a few times, then drive for days home after it breaks?
I don't think so...

Anyway, no vaccination yet so no travel in any case.


The Antares was a bold effort, perhaps too bold, and by now, it's an old effort. No point in
holding it up as an example anymore. Now, all the manufacturers have electric gliders, and Solo
has added electric systems to their sailplane power business. Electric isn't the coming thing
any mo it's here. The next milestone will be passed when they start selling more electrics
than ICEs.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

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Old February 25th 21, 02:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
kinsell
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On 2/24/21 9:22 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Dave Nadler wrote on 2/24/2021 6:08 PM:
On 2/24/2021 8:55 PM, kinsell wrote:
On 2/24/21 4:13 PM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On 2/24/2021 4:51 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/

Discuss amongst yourselves...

Dave, it's time for you to stop complaining and just admit electric
is simple.

You're absolutely right Darryl!
After all, how hard could it be???

Simple and ultra reliable.* You gonna be dragging your old faithful
Antares down to the Seniors this year?


After it failed during the last two comps I took it to?
Drive for days, fly a few times, then drive for days home after it
breaks?
I don't think so...

Anyway, no vaccination yet so no travel in any case.


The Antares was a bold effort, perhaps too bold, and by now, it's an old
effort. No point in holding it up as an example anymore. Now, all the
manufacturers have electric gliders, and Solo has added electric systems
to their sailplane power business. Electric isn't the coming thing any
mo it's here. The next milestone will be passed when they start
selling more electrics than ICEs.


I see another Silent 2 just popped up on the market, that makes four
plus one recently sold. Garret suggests you might want to aerotow or
winch launch to conserve battery power. When I see these things with a
dozen hours on them up for sale, it suggests that the owners aren't that
thrilled with what they got for their money.
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Old February 25th 21, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On 2/25/2021 9:49 AM, kinsell wrote:
I see another Silent 2 just popped up on the market, that makes four
plus one recently sold.* Garret suggests you might want to aerotow or
winch launch to conserve battery power.* When I see these things with a
dozen hours on them up for sale, it suggests that the owners aren't that
thrilled with what they got for their money.


The Silent 2 is an interesting bird.
I've got friends that love it, and others that have sold it on.
Some owners have had to replace battery packs, newer packs
are reported OK - but this is 2nd or 3rd hand info.
More importantly, its got very limited energy, so if you
self-launch, not much in the tank to get home.
Because of its limited performance, you can't just skip
over gaps that higher performance machines take for granted,
and a bit of headwind is a big obstacle.

So, if it can do what you need with your weather and site
constraints, great! But work through carefully whether it
meets your needs.

FWIW...
Best Regards, Dave
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Old February 25th 21, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Hank Nixon
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On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:42:01 PM UTC-5, wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/
Discus amongst yourselves...


The market wants:
Fast charge for convenience
Safety
Long life for low cost of ownership
It is possible to get the send two if one compromises on the first.
Can't have all.
Balancing packs requires time.
Unbalanced packs fail or die sooner.
Reality
UH
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Old February 25th 21, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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kinsell wrote on 2/25/2021 6:49 AM:
On 2/24/21 9:22 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Dave Nadler wrote on 2/24/2021 6:08 PM:
On 2/24/2021 8:55 PM, kinsell wrote:
On 2/24/21 4:13 PM, Dave Nadler wrote:
On 2/24/2021 4:51 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8, wrote:
https://insideevs.com/news/490300/hy...ll-82000-bevs/
Discuss amongst yourselves...

Dave, it's time for you to stop complaining and just admit electric is simple.

You're absolutely right Darryl!
After all, how hard could it be???

Simple and ultra reliable.* You gonna be dragging your old faithful Antares down to the
Seniors this year?

After it failed during the last two comps I took it to?
Drive for days, fly a few times, then drive for days home after it breaks?
I don't think so...

Anyway, no vaccination yet so no travel in any case.


The Antares was a bold effort, perhaps too bold, and by now, it's an old effort. No point in
holding it up as an example anymore. Now, all the manufacturers have electric gliders, and
Solo has added electric systems to their sailplane power business. Electric isn't the coming
thing any mo it's here. The next milestone will be passed when they start selling more
electrics than ICEs.


I see another Silent 2 just popped up on the market, that makes four plus one recently sold.
Garret suggests you might want to aerotow or winch launch to conserve battery power.* When I
see these things with a dozen hours on them up for sale, it suggests that the owners aren't
that thrilled with what they got for their money.


It would be instructive to discuss the reasons with the people selling the Silents. My only
contact with one is Jeff Banks' Silent. We flew together for a week out of Richfield, UT, last
year. He likes it, self-launched every flight, and had good flights. He also flew out of Heber,
Nephi and Dick Stout airfields in 2020. You can check the OLC for his flights in 2018, 2019 and
2020. Also, 2021 - first flight of the year at Seminole.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

 




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