Damaged aircraft - should I pay?

Hi,

Right now (1pm West Coast time) on cnn.com, there is a picture of numerous
overturned planes. Presumably insurance pays for this and since I pay for
insurance, should I feel a bit bummed that these owners didn't fly their
planes to safety and help lower my insurance costs? Taking it to the other
extreme, perhaps some owners wanted to upgrade from a 172 to a 182 (for
example) and... Sorry, I just don't get it.

Thanks,

Hilton

Well, its even worse than you think. The owners/pilots simply abandoned
their old pipers and cessnas to the hurricane's winds in order to collect
the insurance proceeds. They wanted to get what they could before the
ADIZ is approved and expanded, before the user fees kick in, and due to
the historically high price of Avgas.

Its like when a slumlord torches his apartment building to (1) get rid of
the nuisance and (2) collect a few bucks in the process.

Hilton wrote:

Right now (1pm West Coast time) on cnn.com, there is a picture of numerous
overturned planes. Presumably insurance pays for this and since I pay for
insurance, should I feel a bit bummed that these owners didn't fly their
planes to safety and help lower my insurance costs? Taking it to the other
extreme, perhaps some owners wanted to upgrade from a 172 to a 182 (for
example) and... Sorry, I just don't get it.

Using this same mindset, one could also criticise the pilot who attempts to
save the aircraft during an engine failure or fuel starvation emergency,
rather than the people inside.

There are more important priorities in life than possessions.

--
Peter
























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"Hilton" wrote in message
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Hi,

Right now (1pm West Coast time) on cnn.com, there is a picture of numerous
overturned planes. Presumably insurance pays for this and since I pay for
insurance, should I feel a bit bummed that these owners didn't fly their
planes to safety and help lower my insurance costs? Taking it to the
other extreme, perhaps some owners wanted to upgrade from a 172 to a 182
(for example) and... Sorry, I just don't get it.

Thanks,

Hilton



Remember, those folks had to prioritize thinks in there life. Maybe the
plane didn't make the cut.

A plane is just like any other investment. Although if I owned one, I
think it would be my most beloved material possession and would work
hard to protect it.

But, you often have to decide . . . getting the family to higher ground
or protecting the property. Then you get to decide which piece of
property . . . the house that everyone lives in . . . or the plane . .
.. or the boat . . . or . . . (whatever). Sometimes the
family/property question is in the form of an "either or" question,
not both.

If you fly out, how do you get back to take care of the family?
Airlines will typically cancel service 24 or more hours before the
storm's arrival. The dead time of driving back from any appreciable
distance is critical time wasted.

Finally, you never can be sure if by moving you are not going from bad
to worse. I have friends in South Florida who didn't leave when
Andrew approached. They could go North or South (though not too far).
When I asked (in quite colorful language) why they didn't bug out,
they replied there was uncertainty where exactly the storm would
strike, forecast information was confusing, and they didn't know
until it was too late which way to run. Even with days of warning, a
lot of what you have to do is very last minute.

Finally it has always been about all of us paying for choices that
other pilots make. I would much rather help pay for this type of
settlement, then for the pilot who ran out of gas on a clear day
because he or she decided to stretch things too far.

"John" wrote

Finally, you never can be sure if by moving you are not going from bad
to worse. I have friends in South Florida who didn't leave when
Andrew approached. They could go North or South (though not too far).
When I asked (in quite colorful language) why they didn't bug out,
they replied there was uncertainty where exactly the storm would
strike, forecast information was confusing, and they didn't know
until it was too late which way to run.

You board up the house, move the stuff in it onto the top of cabinets, or
boards on top of ladders; you get the picture. one person takes the car and
bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved. You wait with the
plane, and the others that want to go with you until the track is pretty
certain, then bug out in the plane. You beat all of the last minute freeway
traffic that way, also.

Right, life and family is most important. If I am ever in similar
situations, I'll sure make every attempt to make it out with the plane.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote his 1st response:

Let's see I have 4 or 5 days notice. I have to spend most of one day
standing in line getting enough plywood to cover the house to try to
protect
that major investment..that by the way the entire family benefits from.

I don't buy it. You would only have to move the plane 60 miles or so.
There is time in there to move "that" major investment, also.


Morgans responds the second time:

"John" wrote

Finally, you never can be sure if by moving you are not going from bad
to worse. I have friends in South Florida who didn't leave when
Andrew approached. They could go North or South (though not too far).
When I asked (in quite colorful language) why they didn't bug out,
they replied there was uncertainty where exactly the storm would
strike, forecast information was confusing, and they didn't know
until it was too late which way to run.

You board up the house, move the stuff in it onto the top of cabinets, or
boards on top of ladders; you get the picture. one person takes the car
and
bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved. You wait with the
plane, and the others that want to go with you until the track is pretty
certain, then bug out in the plane. You beat all of the last minute
freeway
traffic that way, also.

Right, life and family is most important. If I am ever in similar
situations, I'll sure make every attempt to make it out with the plane.
--
Jim in NC


Ok. This guy is just insensitive or just a moron. Possibly both. Almost
certainly he has never been faced with the situations described. Or perhaps
he (she?) is a super human. Or perhaps s/he just thinks so. Either way, into
the ignore file goes he. or her. whatever.

Harvey
written by generator light after Wilma.

Ok. This guy is just insensitive or just a moron. Possibly both. Almost
certainly he has never been faced with the situations described. Or
perhaps he (she?) is a super human. Or perhaps s/he just thinks so. Either
way, into the ignore file goes he. or her. whatever.

You killfile a guy -- on Usenet -- for being "insensitive"?

You must have one heckuva big killfile!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Harvey" wrote in message
...

"Morgans" wrote his 1st response:

Let's see I have 4 or 5 days notice. I have to spend most of one day
standing in line getting enough plywood to cover the house to try to
protect
that major investment..that by the way the entire family benefits from.

I don't buy it. You would only have to move the plane 60 miles or so.
There is time in there to move "that" major investment, also.


60 miles doesn't move the plane out of the 12 hr margin of error.

one person takes the car and bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved.

I wouldn't let my wife bug out on her own. You never know what could
happen. She could get stuck in Texas type traffic, end up having to
sleep in the car on the freeway, etc. I'm not letting her do that just
to save the damn airplane.
-Robert