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Old February 27th 05, 10:56 PM
Colin W Kingsbury
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:58:46 GMT, "Chip Jones"
wrote:

Far more likely you swivel-heads will get the few AFSS guys who actually

are
qualified controllers. Ironic, too, in a twisted FAA way.. After all,

the
69 Level 2-3 VFR towers will be the next part of the NAS auctioned off

to
the low bidder, followed by Level-Three up-down terminal facilities.

Those
few AFSS people who get picked up in air traffic will be job-hunting

again
in about five years, along with a whole bunch of terminal 2152's. Serco

or
Lockmart is headed your way right around 2010 or so.

Chip, ZTL


Boy, would I love to read this translated into English.


Talkdon't you Newspeak? Doubleplus ungood.

C.f. also the opening of Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash" set about 50 years
in the future, when there is a completely separate language spoken only by
taxi drivers.

My WAG translation (IANAATC):

Swivelheads = tower controllers (always turning their head to see airplanes
unlike a scope controller)
Level 2-3 VFR towers are low-traffic (non-radar?) federal towers
Level 3 up-down are lower-traffic app/dep control feeders
Terminal 2152s? Lost me there. Lower qualification level maybe?
Lockmart = Lockheed Martin (aka Lockmar)
ZTL = Atlanta Center (iirc)

-cwk.


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Old February 27th 05, 11:07 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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Naw, *you're* getting all of the AFSS guys who have been surplussed.
I'm in a Level-12 ARTCC at the top of the ATC food chain. The AFSS
guys that have a Center background are almost all to a person, if not
actually to a person, enroute training failures. When we used to wash 'em
out, they got sent down to AFSS or some small tower/tracon in the minors
somewhere. The vast majority of employable AFSS people aren't qualified
for ARTCC developmental positions. We don't accept training failure
transfers here at the world's busiest ATC facility.


So what possessed you to transfer to ZOB?


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Old February 28th 05, 02:03 AM
Chip Jones
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message
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Naw, *you're* getting all of the AFSS guys who have been surplussed.
I'm in a Level-12 ARTCC at the top of the ATC food chain. The AFSS
guys that have a Center background are almost all to a person, if not
actually to a person, enroute training failures. When we used to wash

'em
out, they got sent down to AFSS or some small tower/tracon in the minors
somewhere. The vast majority of employable AFSS people aren't qualified
for ARTCC developmental positions. We don't accept training failure
transfers here at the world's busiest ATC facility.


So what possessed you to transfer to ZOB?



LOL Stevie, you don't get out much, do ya? ZOB is #2...

Chip, ZTL


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Old February 28th 05, 02:23 AM
Ron Rosenfeld
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:06:42 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

Hmmm. Does anybody make a digital clock that's TSO'ed to replace a Piper
analog clock?


Dunno about Piper, but I got a replacement digital clock for the yoke mount
in my 1965 M20E to replace the 7-day windup analog original. Can't recall
the brand -- it might have been Davtron.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old February 28th 05, 02:39 AM
Roy Smith
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
Dunno about Piper, but I got a replacement digital clock for the yoke mount
in my 1965 M20E to replace the 7-day windup analog original.\


Almost certainly an 8-day windup. That was standard for the genre. The
idea was you picked a set weekly schedule to wind it (i.e. every Monday
morning), and it never got down below 1 day's worth of winding left.
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Old February 28th 05, 02:50 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message
nk.net...

LOL Stevie, you don't get out much, do ya? ZOB is #2...


Is it? What's your source for that? According to the Administrator's Fact
Book, ZOB was numero uno in CYs 1997 through 2003. It's updated quarterly,
the latest is November 2004 so it doesn't have data for CY 2004.

http://www.atctraining.faa.gov/factbook/


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Old February 28th 05, 03:22 AM
Chip Jones
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message
nk.net...

LOL Stevie, you don't get out much, do ya? ZOB is #2...


Is it? What's your source for that? According to the Administrator's

Fact
Book, ZOB was numero uno in CYs 1997 through 2003. It's updated

quarterly,
the latest is November 2004 so it doesn't have data for CY 2004.

http://www.atctraining.faa.gov/factbook/



My source for that is the exact source you quote. It does indeed have data
for CY 2004...

Chip, ZT:


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Old February 28th 05, 03:57 AM
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message
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My source for that is the exact source you quote. It does indeed have
data
for CY 2004...


It does? How can that be? It says the latest edition is November 2004.
How can it have data for all of 2004?


 




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