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Cessna 152 Rudder trim adjustment?
Hi Folks,
I'm a low-time (10 hour) student pilot. I took my first flights in my school's 152 about 2 years ago, then had an 18-month wait for various reasons. When I first flew the plane, I don't remember the right rudder being such an issue (I flew 3 times 2 years ago). Now, the right rudder needs a lot of attention, almost all the time. Even in straight and level at cruise, some right rudder needs to be in. So, before a know-nothing student says something to the instructor, I wanted to give a shout to you guys and see what your thoughts might be. I understand the 152 has more need for right rudder than other planes. Have others had this experience? What should I look for? What should I say - if anything? I know it's not "no rudder needed", maybe I'm just not a very good pilot yet. Thanks, Gary |
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Now, the right rudder needs a lot of attention, almost all the time.
Even in straight and level at cruise, some right rudder needs to be in. Have an instructor fly the plane - it may well be that the rudder trim tab needs adjustment (there's a little tab at the end of the rudder which can be bent one way or the other - it's like permanent rudder trim). Don't bend it yourself - have someone who knows take care of it. Jose -- Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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That's exactly what I'm talking about . . yes.
The instructors (a couple) fly the plane very day. For me, it seems like that question should be asked. Of course, I have an engineering background, and maybe again, I'm just being lazy or alarmist. I'll ask - what the heck. Gary |
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"GEG" wrote in message
... That's exactly what I'm talking about . . yes. The instructors (a couple) fly the plane very day. For me, it seems like that question should be asked. Of course, I have an engineering background, and maybe again, I'm just being lazy or alarmist. I'll ask - what the heck. I'd say if you need right rudder even in cruise, then definitely the trim tab needs to be readjusted. And I agree that you should let somebody who knows how to do it handle it. I never needed a lot of right rudder in the cessna 152 (I did all my private training on one of those). Now, sometimes that spoils you.Now that I'm training in a C172RG for commercial, you REALLY need a lot of right rudder in several ocassions, and I find out that I don't do it as much beacuse I was used to not use a lot of rudder in the 152. |
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GEG wrote:
Hi Folks, I'm a low-time (10 hour) student pilot. I took my first flights in my school's 152 about 2 years ago, then had an 18-month wait for various reasons. When I first flew the plane, I don't remember the right rudder being such an issue (I flew 3 times 2 years ago). Now, the right rudder needs a lot of attention, almost all the time. Even in straight and level at cruise, some right rudder needs to be in. No rudder pressure should be required in cruise. So, before a know-nothing student says something to the instructor, I wanted to give a shout to you guys and see what your thoughts might be. I understand the 152 has more need for right rudder than other planes. Actually, I would think the 150/152 would require about as little right rudder pressure as any aircraft during climb. Been a long time since I've been in one, but I remember transitioning to higher powered aircraft and discovering that I then had to learn how to apply more rudder pressure during climb. Have others had this experience? What should I look for? There's a bendable trim tab on the control surface itself. It's vulnerable to being accidentally bent incorrectly. Be open to the possibility that the turn and bank indicator is not installed level in the panel. What should I say - if anything? Just report your observations, just as you have here. Have someone else confirm your observations, if possible. Expect that your observations might be dismissed due to your low time. You may have to be persistent. I know it's not "no rudder needed", maybe I'm just not a very good pilot yet. No rudder pressure should be required to keep the ball centered in cruise. |
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Dave Butler wrote:
snip Just report your observations, just as you have here. Have someone else confirm your observations, if possible. Expect that your observations might be dismissed due to your low time. You may have to be persistent. It might seem unfair but it's called 'Paying your dues'...we must all do it sometime... -- --Gord (use gordon in email) "Without detonation, your car won't move. That's what makes engines go". "In my car, the high octane fuel detonates better than the lower octane grades. Fortunately for me, it doesn't PREVENT DETONATION". -Burnore. Yes, Detonation is a normal condition and it occurs every time you have ignition, -Josh |
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"GEG" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, I'm a low-time (10 hour) student pilot. I took my first flights in my school's 152 about 2 years ago, then had an 18-month wait for various reasons. When I first flew the plane, I don't remember the right rudder being such an issue (I flew 3 times 2 years ago). Now, the right rudder needs a lot of attention, almost all the time. Even in straight and level at cruise, some right rudder needs to be in. So, before a know-nothing student says something to the instructor, I wanted to give a shout to you guys and see what your thoughts might be. I understand the 152 has more need for right rudder than other planes. Have others had this experience? What should I look for? What should I say - if anything? I know it's not "no rudder needed", maybe I'm just not a very good pilot yet. Thanks, Gary Not sure why you wouldn't talk to your instructor ...thats what he is there for !! Regards, BMC |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FREE Spam Protection For Your E-Mail! Click Here. SpamExtract Blocks Spam. "Brian Colwell" wrote in message news:Hysce.1160488$Xk.425252@pd7tw3no... "GEG" wrote in message ... Hi Folks, I'm a low-time (10 hour) student pilot. I took my first flights in my school's 152 about 2 years ago, then had an 18-month wait for various reasons. When I first flew the plane, I don't remember the right rudder being such an issue (I flew 3 times 2 years ago). Now, the right rudder needs a lot of attention, almost all the time. Even in straight and level at cruise, some right rudder needs to be in. So, before a know-nothing student says something to the instructor, I wanted to give a shout to you guys and see what your thoughts might be. I understand the 152 has more need for right rudder than other planes. Have others had this experience? What should I look for? What should I say - if anything? I know it's not "no rudder needed", maybe I'm just not a very good pilot yet. Thanks, Gary Not sure why you wouldn't talk to your instructor ...thats what he is there I flew C150's and C172's in the early 1970's. none of them had rudder trim. Is he confusing it with another A/C type. I remember the PA28's had rudder trim. for !! Regards, BMC |
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Qansett wrote:
I flew C150's and C172's in the early 1970's. none of them had rudder trim. Most of the 150s and all of the 172s I've flown had a rudder trim tab. When set properly, the planes would cruise without needing rudder input. My C-150 did not have such a tab. It was necessary to keep a bit of right rudder pressure all the time. I got in the habit of flying with one foot, except for landing. I had to break that habit in a hurry when I bought my Maule. George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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"George Patterson" wrote in message news:vQqte.9587$EH1.153@trndny03... Qansett wrote: I flew C150's and C172's in the early 1970's. none of them had rudder trim. Most of the 150s and all of the 172s I've flown had a rudder trim tab. When set properly, the planes would cruise without needing rudder input. My C-150 did not have such a tab. It was necessary to keep a bit of right rudder pressure all the time. I got in the habit of flying with one foot, except for landing. I had to break that habit in a hurry when I bought my Maule. George Patterson I fly a C152 and with a passenger it requires no rudder, with just myself on board it requires slight right rudder all the time. |
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