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If user fees go into effect I'm done
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:33:33 GMT, "Viperdoc"
wrote in : You have to remember that tankers are an essential and valuable asset, and the current ones are based on 707's. They are getting long in the tooth, considering the hours and hard use they have endured. Even refurbishment in a depot can not always resurrect an old and tired airframe. Simply put, the Air Force needs newer tanker assets, and it would be simpler to modify an existing airframe rather than go through a clean sheet design. While that may be true, it overlooks the point, that Boeing has a history of criminal behavior in dealing with government contracts, and now it is proposing to install its automation system to control all air traffic in the NAS via satellite. Those facts set off my boondoggle detector. While the concept is enormously attractive in its ability to nearly completely automate air traffic control, there will be several new vulnerabilities introduced unless they are addressed and resolved BEFORE implementations of NextGen commences. |
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Viperdoc wrote:
You have to remember that tankers are an essential and valuable asset, and the current ones are based on 707's. I thought they had a bunch of KC-10's? |
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If user fees go into effect I'm done
The KC-10's are almost as old as the KC-135's. How many 707's and KC-10's
are still active in commercial service? I think Fedex dumped all of their 10's a few years ago. Still, flying in a 135 is a nice quiet ride. However, the airframes are aging, and it is becoming more and more expensive to maintain them, to the point where it may no longer be cost effective. |
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If user fees go into effect I'm done
Viperdoc wrote:
The KC-10's are almost as old as the KC-135's. How many 707's and KC-10's are still active in commercial service? I think Fedex dumped all of their 10's a few years ago. Thanks. I didn't know the KC-10's were that old, have recently seen one flying t&g's @ McGuire. My father worked on 135's in the 60's, and we saw one out of Pease at a recent airshow @ BAF. FWIW, I know somebody who flies DC-10's for Gemini Air Cargo, so at least _one_ is still flying. |
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In article ,
Viperdoc wrote: The KC-10's are almost as old as the KC-135's. How many 707's and KC-10's are still active in commercial service? I think Fedex dumped all of their 10's a few years ago. FedEx is working on converting their DC-10s to MD-10s, and currently lists 86 DC-10/MD-10s in their fleet, as well as 58 MD-11s. An MD-10 is a DC-10 retrofitted with an MD-11 two man cockpit, as well as some other changes. http://fedex.com/us/about/today/comp...ess/facts.html John -- John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/ |
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Ron Lee wrote:
In todays AvWebFlash they state that the FAA proposal recommends increasing the av gas tax from around 19-21 cents to 70 cents (US). If their goal is to kill GA this is a step in the right direction. Ron Lee Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions. Which will increase the pressure for user fees. And on and on and on. Scott |
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scott moore wrote:
Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions. Those of you who can. Some 70% of the piston flying is done with high performance engines that can't use mogas, my Six included. |
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scott moore wrote: Ron Lee wrote: In todays AvWebFlash they state that the FAA proposal recommends increasing the av gas tax from around 19-21 cents to 70 cents (US). If their goal is to kill GA this is a step in the right direction. Ron Lee Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions. Which will increase the pressure for user fees. User fees are dead. They don't stand a chance. |
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Ray Andraka wrote: scott moore wrote: Most likely we'll be lining up for autogas conversions. Those of you who can. Some 70% of the piston flying is done with high performance engines that can't use mogas, my Six included. All but a very few engines could run on mogas. Those that can't now would need an electronic ignition. The few that never will are the high HP turbo models, such as in the Navajo Chieftain. |
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If user fees go into effect I'm done
Newps wrote:
User fees are dead. They don't stand a chance. I would agree that is the case for a few years. |
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