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Since we all know each other by our posting identities, why not use
those? It is possible that someone might use the info about the plane and/or pilot for other than honorable purposes. Some posters might have valid reasons to use a different or incomplete name. Aircraft theft, avionics theft, identity theft are all things that do occur from time to time in our society. We can be somewhat selective about who gets to know us in "real life". But we can't control at all who views our posts, etc. Richard Riley wrote in message . .. On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:47:59 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote: : Our new rec.aviation "Rogue's Gallery" of pictures. : :Since our new website is obviously becoming more popular with you folks :every day, I need some advice on how to proceed: : :1. Should I include "anonymous" posters? I have received pictures from :several folks who do not wish to use their real names, have their "N" :numbers visible, or have their home bases publicized. To me this seems :bizarre, since the whole point of "showing off" your plane is to "show ff" -- and how can you do *that* anonymously? Still, I've posted a :couple of them, but I'm not sure of how to proceed. It's YOUR page -- what :do you folks think? Why not? Anonymous pictures wouldn't have as much use as non-anonymous (nominous?) ones do, but it doesn't cost anything to post them. If they're asking *you* to blurr out their N numbers, that's different and you should turn them down. : :2. The page is slowing waaaay down. I really like the format of the page, :but as it grows it's getting really slow to open. How's it running for you? :Too slow? Okay, yet? How slow is too slow? Runs OK for me on a cable modem. I like the thumbnails. : :3. Should I include email addresses? I've not included them, thus far -- :but I thought it might be valuable to have an email "directory" of articipants? If you do, make them spambot resistant, like richard atsign riley period net. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:t9uCb.328993$Dw6.1107274@attbi_s02... We all know the problem with our pilot license numbers. The name and address of a pilot, his SS number and the exact N-number, serial number, and address of his airplane, a very valuable tangible asset, might make easy picking for an identity thief. Am I being overly cautious, yes. You know, I hear this ALL THE TIME -- yet, I've never met a single person who has actually suffered from "identity theft". Well while don't you test it. Start posting your social security number on this newsgroup and others. Probably nothing will happen. As you all know, I use my real name, my real address, my real email address (well, mostly), and the real name of my business -- thus far, with minimal hassle. Am I being stupid? Dunno -- but I simply can't bring myself to hide behind a phony name. You are just being stupid. Yes. I *really* enjoy the new Visa commercials, with the guy's voice-over on the little old lady -- they're hilarious and really get the point across about the risks of identity theft. However, they *are* trying to sell a product, and (as a result) the cynic in me rises to the fore. I just have to wonder if this whole "identity theft" thing isn't a product of Madison Avenue, once again trying to fan the flames of our own paranoia, in an effort to sell us something? Kind of like you posting your business url on every post, eh? Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate? Yes. Do you know anyone that has been murdered? dashi Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Yes, a friend had it happen to him. It was horrible. Obviously not
life threatening but it can really mess up your life. Now that it's more common, maybe the credit agencies will be more cooperative in helping to reestablish one's credit rating. You really should take every precaution. Dave Jay Honeck wrote: We all know the problem with our pilot license numbers. The name and address of a pilot, his SS number and the exact N-number, serial number, and address of his airplane, a very valuable tangible asset, might make easy picking for an identity thief. Am I being overly cautious, yes. You know, I hear this ALL THE TIME -- yet, I've never met a single person who has actually suffered from "identity theft". As you all know, I use my real name, my real address, my real email address (well, mostly), and the real name of my business -- thus far, with minimal hassle. Am I being stupid? Dunno -- but I simply can't bring myself to hide behind a phony name. I *really* enjoy the new Visa commercials, with the guy's voice-over on the little old lady -- they're hilarious and really get the point across about the risks of identity theft. However, they *are* trying to sell a product, and (as a result) the cynic in me rises to the fore. I just have to wonder if this whole "identity theft" thing isn't a product of Madison Avenue, once again trying to fan the flames of our own paranoia, in an effort to sell us something? Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate? |
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Well while don't you test it. Start posting your social security number on
this newsgroup and others. Well, there's stupid, and then there is STUPID. I ain't STUPID. :-) You are just being stupid. Yes. Jeez, rough crowd... again trying to fan the flames of our own paranoia, in an effort to sell us something? Kind of like you posting your business url on every post, eh? Well, fanning the flames of paranoia in order to sell something of questionable value, versus posting my aviation themed hotel's URL in posts made on an aviation newsgroup seem (to me, anyway) to be quite different -- but maybe I'm just being stupid again? Do you know anyone that has been murdered? Nope. And if I did, how would this be relevant? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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("Doug" wrote)
Since we all know each other by our posting identities, why not use those? It is possible that someone might use the info about the plane and/or pilot for other than honorable purposes. Some posters might have valid reasons to use a different or incomplete name. Aircraft theft, avionics theft, identity theft are all things that do occur from time to time in our society. We can be somewhat selective about who gets to know us in "real life". But we can't control at all who views our posts, etc. I agree with Doug's thoughts here. I'm not too interested in someone's N-number. I do enjoy seeing newsgroup ID's matched up to planes and people. Jay. Thank you for taking the time to set this up for the rec.aviation folks. It is appreciated :-) -- Montblack http://lumma.de/mt/archives/bart.gif |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:47:59 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote: Our new rec.aviation "Rogue's Gallery" of pictures. Since our new website is obviously becoming more popular with you folks every day, I need some advice on how to proceed: 1. I'd vote against anonymous postings. They are after all a sharing of our planes with others. I have no real problem not including the base, but I do think names and states should be included. I can't think of a valid reason for not posting the information. 1. Should I include "anonymous" posters? I have received pictures from several folks who do not wish to use their real names, have their "N" numbers visible, or have their home bases publicized. To me this seems bizarre, since the whole point of "showing off" your plane is to "show off" -- and how can you do *that* anonymously? Still, I've posted a couple of them, but I'm not sure of how to proceed. It's YOUR page -- what do you folks think? 2. The page is slowing waaaay down. I really like the format of the page, but as it grows it's getting really slow to open. How's it running for you? Too slow? Okay, yet? How slow is too slow? I haven't noticed it slowing, but I'm on ADSL. Course I lost the page URL and haven't been able to find it again. 3. Should I include email addresses? I've not included them, thus far -- but I thought it might be valuable to have an email "directory" of participants? Only if the user says it's OK. I use specific addresses that get posted like that. Lordy, I even get spam to the webmaster and support addresses for some sites. If you want I'll send you a different one than what was on my e-mail. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?) www.rogerhalstead.com Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers Thanks for your help! |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:t9uCb.328993$Dw6.1107274@attbi_s02...
We all know the problem with our pilot license numbers. The name and address of a pilot, his SS number and the exact N-number, serial number, and address of his airplane, a very valuable tangible asset, might make easy picking for an identity thief. Am I being overly cautious, yes. You know, I hear this ALL THE TIME -- yet, I've never met a single person who has actually suffered from "identity theft". As you all know, I use my real name, my real address, my real email address (well, mostly), and the real name of my business -- thus far, with minimal hassle. Am I being stupid? Dunno -- but I simply can't bring myself to hide behind a phony name. I *really* enjoy the new Visa commercials, with the guy's voice-over on the little old lady -- they're hilarious and really get the point across about the risks of identity theft. However, they *are* trying to sell a product, and (as a result) the cynic in me rises to the fore. I just have to wonder if this whole "identity theft" thing isn't a product of Madison Avenue, once again trying to fan the flames of our own paranoia, in an effort to sell us something? Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate? I've just opened an E-Trade Bank account in your name. It took me 3 minutes. Don't worry, tomorrow I'll close it, I'm one of the good guys, but in the meantime I could have used that to get a small limit, secured visa card, and that would establish a mail drop as one of your legit addresses. In a month or so, I'd apply for half a dozen credit cards with your name and ssn, but my mail drop address. I'd use them to buy high value stuff, like gold, that's easy to sell for cash. Or get a quick $10k personal loan from Cash Call. I wouldn't buy a car, they're too easy to trace and you can't get real cash out of them. I might buy an airplane, fly it down to South America and sell it for 25 cents on the dollar. I'm not kidding about the E-Trade account. Check your credit report in a month, it will be there. I used your real ssn and birthday. Your SSN and your wife's SSN added together is 792288289 20 years ago you lived at 1562 30th Ave. Apt. 2D, your phone number was 554-0990. Your wife was living at 2595 N Cramer St, her phone number was 962-8821. Her name was Udulutch. She was born in June, 1960, in the second week of the month. You have a business. Your credit is pretty good. If you are in the open you're a target. You should be checking your credit reports every 3 months. WAKE UP!!!! Don't be an idiot. There are 700,000-900,000 cases of identity theft per year, growing at about 25% per year. Do you know anyone that's been killed by a drunk driver? Probably not. There are only 15,000 people killed per year by drunk drivers. That doesn't mean it's not going to happen. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:t9uCb.328993$Dw6.1107274@attbi_s02...
We all know the problem with our pilot license numbers. The name and address of a pilot, his SS number and the exact N-number, serial number, and address of his airplane, a very valuable tangible asset, might make easy picking for an identity thief. Am I being overly cautious, yes. You know, I hear this ALL THE TIME -- yet, I've never met a single person who has actually suffered from "identity theft". As you all know, I use my real name, my real address, my real email address (well, mostly), and the real name of my business -- thus far, with minimal hassle. Am I being stupid? Dunno -- but I simply can't bring myself to hide behind a phony name. I *really* enjoy the new Visa commercials, with the guy's voice-over on the little old lady -- they're hilarious and really get the point across about the risks of identity theft. However, they *are* trying to sell a product, and (as a result) the cynic in me rises to the fore. I just have to wonder if this whole "identity theft" thing isn't a product of Madison Avenue, once again trying to fan the flames of our own paranoia, in an effort to sell us something? Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate? I've just opened an E-Trade Bank account in your name. It took me 3 minutes. Don't worry, tomorrow I'll close it, I'm one of the good guys, but in the meantime I could have used that to get a small limit, secured visa card, and that would establish a mail drop as one of your legit addresses. In a month or so, I'd apply for half a dozen credit cards with your name and ssn, but my mail drop address. I'd use them to buy high value stuff, like gold, that's easy to sell for cash. Or get a quick $10k personal loan from Cash Call. I wouldn't buy a car, they're too easy to trace and you can't get real cash out of them. I might buy an airplane, fly it down to South America and sell it for 25 cents on the dollar. I'm not kidding about the E-Trade account. Check your credit report in a month, it will be there. I used your real ssn and birthday. Your SSN and your wife's SSN added together is 792288289 20 years ago you lived at 1562 30th Ave. Apt. 2D, your phone number was 554-0990. Your wife was living at 2595 N Cramer St, her phone number was 962-8821. Her name was Udulutch. She was born in June, 1960, in the second week of the month. You have a business. Your credit is pretty good. If you are in the open you're a target. You should be checking your credit reports every 3 months. WAKE UP!!!! Don't be an idiot. There are 700,000-900,000 cases of identity theft per year, growing at about 25% per year. Do you know anyone that's been killed by a drunk driver? Probably not. There are only 15,000 people killed per year by drunk drivers. That doesn't mean it's not going to happen. |
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In article , "Dashi"
wrote: Does anyone know a real person who has suffered this fate? Yes. Do you know anyone that has been murdered? I did. :-( -- Bob Noel |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:47:59 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
Our new rec.aviation "Rogue's Gallery" of pictures. Since our new website is obviously becoming more popular with you folks every day, I need some advice on how to proceed: 1. Should I include "anonymous" posters? I have received pictures from it is your site - so it is your decision several folks who do not wish to use their real names, have their "N" numbers visible, or have their home bases publicized. To me this seems bizarre, since the whole point of "showing off" your plane is to "show off" -- and how can you do *that* anonymously? Still, I've posted a your decision, their privacy couple of them, but I'm not sure of how to proceed. It's YOUR page -- what do you folks think? it is YOUR site, not "OURS". 2. The page is slowing waaaay down. I really like the format of the page, it loads to much stuff. a directory with sub-pages might help. I'd make it a database ... but as it grows it's getting really slow to open. How's it running for you? Too slow? Okay, yet? How slow is too slow? 3. Should I include email addresses? I've not included them, thus far -- you would never get _my_ permission to post _my_ address on your page. It is only another ressource for address-harvesters. but I thought it might be valuable to have an email "directory" of participants? hm. reading here, posting here. or do you want to post all those fake addresses with their faked names? Thanks for your help! but to sum it up: it's your site (with a very clear connection to the main site [directory/navigation]). #m -- http://www.declareyourself.com/fyr_candidates.php http://www.subterrane.com/bush.shtml |
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