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Juan,
Your lack of education in the field of journalism is obvious and embracing the narrowist definition of journalism you could find in your $1.99 dictionary is not surprising. I've taken a couple of classes in journalism and honestly think that you might benefit from the experience, as well. I certainly know the difference between an editorial and news story. I also know the definition of journalism, as it is presented in the classroom, embraced by those in the field, and detailed in finer unabridged dictionaries. American Heritage Dictionary journalism - 1) the collecting, writing, editing, and presentation of news in print or electronic media. 2) Written material of current or popular interest. It is not surprising that you would argue that editorials need not be journalistically responsible, as they are not examples of journalism or products of journalists. Editorials can be irresponsible. When journalists recuse themselves of all journalistic integrity when writing an editorial, it is especially irresponsible and unprofessional. In modern journalism, a distinction is often made between editorials and commentaries. Editorials suggest the opinion of the editorial staff or editor, (a journalist), while commentaries suggest that the opinions are not necessarily those of the publication and are often written by non-journalists. This distinction is made, I believe, to underscore that opinions expressed in editorials are the result of honest journalist pursuits. The editorial I cited was an example of bad journalism. In your opinion... shrug Yes, in my opinion is is an example of bad journalism. ROFLMAO! HAHAHAHA! That's funny!!!! You obviously don't have the slightest clue of the definition of yellow journalism. To suggest that ANN engaged in yellow journalism related to an activity attended by _hundreds of thousands of people_ is patently absurd and bordering on the prepubescent. The fact that the event was attended by thousands, is of little consequence to our discussion. ANN's "editorial" suggests that Adam Aircraft is "under fire for safety practices and other concerns" without providing any details. Likewise, ANN suggests that the appearance carried with it "WAY too many risks", without detailing those risks. Yellow journalism need not be limited to news stories. |
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"Juan E Jimenez" wrote in message news:MKu6b.278388$cF.86350@rwcrnsc53... Editorials are pieces which express opinions, and they can come from many different sources. There are editorials that express the views of the publication, and there are guest editorials that express the views of people who have standing in the community to talk about a specific issue. Juan, I guess you didn't reach for your cheap-ass dictionary to look up the word, editorial, did you? While you might find editorials and commentaries on an "Editorial Page", an editorial is strictly defined. editorial - 1) An article in a publication expressing the opinion of its editors or publishers. 2) A commentary on television or radio expressing the opinion of the station or network. (American Heritage Dictionary) From your words, it sounds like you are more than comfortable with the word, editorialize. editorialize - 2) to present an opinion in the guise of an objective report. (American Heritage Dictionary) The modern convention is to make an obvious distinction between an editorial and commentary. |
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"C.D. Damron" wrote in message .net... editorial - 1) An article in a publication expressing the opinion of its editors or publishers. 2) A commentary on television or radio expressing the opinion of the station or network. Thank you for agreeing with me. editorialize - 2) to present an opinion in the guise of an objective report. (American Heritage Dictionary) I pity the students who attended your classes and learned from you how to be a journalist by picking and choosing what suits your argument while ignoring what doesn't. To wit: editorialize - 1. To express an opinion in or as if in an editorial. (American Heritage Dictionary) BTW, rather than worrying so much about your uninformed opinions about editorials vs. bonafide news and the difference between the two, you ought to stick to what you allege you know and fix your web site. Juan |
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"Juan E Jimenez" wrote in message news:w3w6b.281792$Oz4.74458@rwcrnsc54... So you gave a couple of classes. Good for you. You still don't have a clue what yellow journalism really is. The history of the term is plastered all over the net. Go read it. BTW, is putting words in people's mouths part of what you taught in your journalism "classes"? chuckle I don't think I was putting any words in people's mouths. If so, I would have hoped to do a better job. For those of us that don't feel like Googling for definitions, don't have a slang dictionary, or don't have time to take a class, why don't you define "yellow journalism" for us. My understanding of the term might be distorted, but I think not. |
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"Juan E Jimenez" wrote in message et... BTW, rather than worrying so much about your uninformed opinions about editorials vs. bonafide news and the difference between the two, you ought to stick to what you allege you know and fix your web site. It hasn't been a priority. Thanks for the suggestion. |
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Depends on the deal. Sometimes confession to a lesser charge is a condition.
Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired |
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In article MKu6b.278388$cF.86350@rwcrnsc53, "Juan E Jimenez"
writes: No. Editorials don't necessarily have to _argue_ a point. They may simply state an opinion based on an observation of something that happened in the community. In this case, ANN is presenting its opinion on whether or not it was a good idea for Adam to rush through a few hours of flight and fly to OSH just because they want to show the a/c. ANN doesn't have to argue anything to present this opinion. It can simply present it, as it did. Same as my tiny editorial awarding Adam Aircraft the Steel Cojones Award for bring the a/c to the show. (Oh, you missed that? hmm... interesting example of selective reading) I didn't have to argue anything, period. I simply stated it. No Jaun, the Steel Cojones Award was not missed by anyone but, anyone with half a brain also knows that it doesn't represent a compliment either. It was taken as a slam on Adam Aircraft which is obviously, in light of the editorial, the way it was intended. Talk about selective reading! When are you going to learn to read? Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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In article , Warren & Nancy
writes: In reference to your quoted story, where is the view from Adam Aircraft on why they felt it was necessary to have their plane at the biggest and most important aviation even of the year? Was it really a risk to bring it here or not? Were they even asked to comment? I doubt it but if they were, obviously their comments were ignored. I haven't been to ANN for quite a while, but has Adam Aircraft advertised with zoom? Or did he use his reported tactic of putting in unauthorized advertising and then sending a bill for it? Can't say for sure but I wouldn't give any odds. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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