Obama/Marx

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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote:


Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning)

Old fashioned Red-scare paranoia.

Ludicrous.

Dan, have some more Kool Aid!

Not the kind you're drinking; it's psychedelic.

I believe the word was 'Electric'

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"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:23:32 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
wrote in
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Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning):

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289


The Canada Free Press seems to be a bit of a radical news source, but
thank you for the McCartyist link.

The other articles of the author of the article you cite, Cliff
Kincaid, are he
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index...ers/1/Kincaid/
And here is Kincaid's web site: http://www.aim.org/

Here's Kincaid being interviewed by Limbaugh wannabe Mark Carbonaro
where Kincaid further elaborates on his views of Obama:
http://www.aim.org/on-the-air/kincai...arbonaro-show/

Kincaid has this to say about McCain:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2239
The George Soros Connection

While it may sound good in theory, a “Democracy Coalition Project”
was actually started in June of 2002 and it has been run by the
political left, most of them former Clinton officials. Seed money
and original sponsorship were provided by the George Soros-funded
Open Society Institute. Key officials include Morton Halperin, the
director of Soros’s Open Society Institute Washington office, and
former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who served
as Strobe Talbott’s boss. Halperin also worked under Albright at
State.

If McCain is promoting a Soros-funded project or idea, it would
not be the first time. World Net Daily and others have noted
evidence that McCain’s “Reform Institute” also received funds from
Soros. Hernandez is a senior fellow there.

Could Soros, the billionaire financial manipulator, be in a
position to call the shots no matter who is elected in the fall?

It is certainly relevant and significant that Talbott’s book The
Great Experiment identifies Soros, one of the “visitors to my
office” when he was in the Clinton State Department, as one of his
advisers on issues like NATO. Talbott also thanks Soros in the
acknowledgements section of his book.

Soros wrote Toward a New World Order: The Future of NATO, back in
1993. He figured that NATO could take on the military
responsibilities of the New World Order until the U.N. was ready
to do the job.

It sounds a lot like the McCain plan.

No wonder Talbott is pleased with our “choices” this fall.

Larry Dighera wrote:

The Canada Free Press seems to be a bit of a radical news source, but
thank you for the McCartyist link.

The other articles of the author of the article you cite, Cliff
Kincaid, are he

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed Kincaid's other articles.
Here's what he said about McCain:

"If McCain is promoting a Soros-funded project or idea, it would not be
the first time. World Net Daily and others have noted evidence that
McCain’s “Reform Institute” also received funds from Soros. Hernandez is
a senior fellow there."

Sounds like ol' Kincaid has an axe to grind about everybody, but, I
wonder why all of a sudden he's not talking about the McCain/Soros
connection?

In a different article he wrote this:

"Defense Secretary Rumsfeld was fired even though he did everything
possible, with the military he had been given, to win the war in Iraq."

The ENEMY is Al Qaeda and Osama bin Goddamn Laden, and the WAR should
have been in Afghanistan, where Al Qaeda and the Taliban are making tons
of money off of poppy which, according to world news sources, has
proliferated all over Afghanistan (along with the return of the
Taliban), and so the actual terrorists who declared jihad against the
United States and the world are rearming, recruiting and harvesting
heroin while guys like Kincaid smokescreen the fact that the public
obsession with Iraq is helping our enemies in Afghanistan thrive.

Kincaid is an idiot.

-c

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning):

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289

Several points:

(0) Nothing about this is aviation related.

(1) The article was originally published by an organization called AIM:
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

(2) The article claims that "The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii
from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close
relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his
"poetry"...." But Obama was born in 1961 in Hawaii. He was in fifth
grade in 1971 and graduated high school in 1979. He was living with his
maternal grandparents at the time.

(3) The article says more about things that happened _prior_ to Obama's
birth than about Obama's actual _positions_ (e.g. events in 1939(!),
1951(!), the fifties, etc.) Obama's actual legislative impact as a
senator is openly available and it seems to be only moderately left of
the middle (e.g. Obama supported legislation which would provide
incentives for creation of coal-to-liquid fuel plants to help reduce
dependence on foreign oil[1]; on the other hand has called for universal
health care[2]).

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010901503.html
Obama spokesman: "Illinois basin coal has more untapped
energy potential than the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait
combined. Senator Obama believes it is crucial that we invest in
technologies to use these resources to reduce our dependence on foreign
oil."

[2] http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/p...ealthcare.html

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:58:54 -0500, Jim Logajan
wrote in :

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

Wow! That's about what I suspected.

The Swift Boaters are a busy lot: http://mediamatters.org/index

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:58:54 -0500, Jim Logajan
wrote in :

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

Wow! That's about what I suspected.

The Swift Boaters are a busy lot: http://mediamatters.org/index

If you don't like erase the message, kill the messenger!

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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:58:54 -0500, Jim Logajan
wrote in :

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

Wow! That's about what I suspected.

The Swift Boaters are a busy lot: http://mediamatters.org/index

If you don't like erase the message, kill the messenger!

Eh? I have no intention of voting for Obama - but not because I believe he
is a Marxist, which he does not appear to be by my understanding of the
definition of that term. I will be voting Libertarian. (I'm guessing if
Obama were elected his policies would be similar to those of the Clinton
administration.)

The message from the messenger you quoted didn't prove a thing re Obama
being a Marxist. Sorry.

On 2008-06-25, Jim Logajan wrote:
Eh? I have no intention of voting for Obama - but not because I believe he
is a Marxist, which he does not appear to be by my understanding of the
definition of that term. I will be voting Libertarian. (I'm guessing if
Obama were elected his policies would be similar to those of the Clinton
administration.)

A vote for Bob Barr is a vote for Obama.

Either Obama or McCain will be elected. Voting for someone else will simply
take votes away from the candidate of the two that you might find more
acceptable.
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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning):

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289

Any headline that asks a question instead of stating a fact is dubious:
ie, 'Is Obama a Space Alien?' (he came "Out of nowhere")

At the bottom of the story, note the link to "other articles by Cliff
Kincaid" You have to go back to before McCain was the Republican
nominee to even find a story about him. Kincaid absolutely stinks of
commie-paranoia and anti-Obama spin. Enough bias, already.



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