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A few newbie questions about the sport
On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 3:45:08 PM UTC-4, Paul T wrote:
At 19:09 20 September 2018, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote: On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 11:00:08 AM UTC-7, Paul T wrote: At 13:31 20 September 2018, kirk.stant wrote: On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 6:00:07 PM UTC-5, Paul T wrote: Sorry can't afford transatlantic telephone calls - I asked a fairly simpl=3D e =3D20 question, why can't you answer this on a public forum? Assuming you are British - do a search of BGA's excellent magazine; a=20 few y=3D ears ago there was an article about a student who basically soloed in 5 fli=3D ghts by using Condor to prepare.=3D20 I believe the French CNVV has developed a full-up Condor (w/cockpit=20 and big=3D screens) glider simulator for use by French glider clubs. Our own gliding club (St Louis Soaring Association) in the US is in the pro=3D cess of building up a Condor sim with realistic flight controls and multipl=3D e big screens. Any simulator is just a training tool (Condor is technically an Aircrew Tra=3D ining Device in the lingo of the flight simulation industry) and it's effec=3D tiveness is driven by how it is used. Since the cockpit of a glider is not =3D the best classroom, used properly Condor can be a great help to the learnin=3D g process. Learn it in the sim, practice it in the glider. Kirk (been using sims for training for almost 50 years now...yikes!) =20 =20 You ask a simple question on here and get slaughtered - I asked a=20 simple question of someone who uses this method as a business , what=20 is typically the time saved using this method-its it really such a difficult=20 question to answer? Why can't htat be answered on a public forum - =20 some kind of big secret or something? If you want to ask a simple question, might I suggest you do it without an = accusatory tone. Writers including myself have given you plenty antidotal "= evidence" of simulation training as a good learning tool. I was required b= y my insurance to attend Flight Safety for yearly simulation training in a = complex aircraft I have flown. Could be Scott runs a small operation, cater= ing to glider pilots, and has not funded a multi-part double blind study la= rge enough for a statically valid result, to see if 1) Condor simulation re= duces time to ticket for; a) ab initio student; b) for licensed power pilot= s transitioning; c) rusty returning pilots; d) currency=E2=80=A6.. =20 Simulation training has been around and proven since the Link trainer in th= e big one, that is WWII. Don't blame Scott or the newsgroup for calling yo= u out on your behavior! For the most part we have a great group that are he= lpful to one another and many members are the most respected members of our= sport internationally. If you truly wanted to know you would have taken S= cott up on his offer to communication directly. Yeah at great expense to myself, sorry but I cannot afford to make transantlantic telephone calls - there was no accusatory tone - asked a simple question that's all - dont see why that can't be answered. Think you are getting a bit oversensitiveness and reading things into things that aren't there . The guy stated this was his business and made some claims in a public forum - I merely asked if he had any evidence for that and what the average time saving was - surely a simple answer like' in my experience for the 50 students that have used this method - the average student can save 2 -4 hours on R/L training' would have answered the question - cannot see why that is so hard to do? If you wish to know the reason for this - is that I with some friends are thinking of establishing a gliding club in Bulgaria - Bulgaria is one of the poorest countries in the EU - we would like to establish a club that the a person on an average income can afford to fly - average incomes are low in Bulgaria @ 400euro/month - so any money savings saved in training would be beneficial and it may pay to use a simulator in the training syllabus. Warning - thread drift. You might consider something like the LAK-16M primary trainer. There is a short youtube video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj4oZ8bX9Oo ; aimed at younger people, but inexpensive, and looks like a lot of cheap fun. |
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