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Old September 13th 03, 02:05 AM
Mike Yared
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Default Bomber-jacket leather and our law

from http://www.washtimes.com/national/inring.htm
Buy Pakistani?
The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law and
allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive U.S.
aviator bomber jackets. The Defense Department has notified a U.S. leather
tanner that it will waive provisions of the law known as the Berry Amendment
that requires the Pentagon to buy key components from U.S. manufacturers. In
April, the Pentagon announced it would buy 12,000 to 30,000 of the brown,
fur-collared bomber jackets over the next several years. According to
congressional aides, the Defense Department in the past allowed the jackets
to be made with Pakistani goatskin. This is because the military did not
believe either that U.S. suppliers had sufficient stocks of raw U.S.
goatskins, or that U.S. tanners were capable of making the soft brown
leather. According to the aides, the Pentagon believes the buy-American law
does not apply to the leather used to make the bomber jackets, only the
jackets themselves. We are told that the United States has plenty of
suppliers of raw goatskin for the jackets and at least seven tanners who can
make the jackets. "The Pentagon's disregard of the Berry Amendment to allow
foreign leather to be used in this procurement is entirely unnecessary, as
well as unlawful," one House aide said. "The Defense Department should be
urged to reconsider its waiver." Proposed changes to the Berry Amendment in
the House version of the pending defense-authorization bill would include
bomber-jacket leather in the buy-American law.


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Old September 13th 03, 02:32 AM
Tex Houston
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"Mike Yared" wrote in message
...
from http://www.washtimes.com/national/inring.htm
Buy Pakistani?
The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law

and
allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive

U.S.
aviator bomber jackets. The Defense Department has notified a U.S. leather
tanner that it will waive provisions of the law known as the Berry

Amendment
that requires the Pentagon to buy key components from U.S. manufacturers.

In
April, the Pentagon announced it would buy 12,000 to 30,000 of the brown,
fur-collared bomber jackets over the next several years.


I'm around the USAF a lot and I don't remember any such item as a brown
fur-collared bomber jacket as current issue. A-2 aircrew jacket maybe but I
think someone is describing a WWII item.

Tex



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Old September 13th 03, 02:38 AM
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sound like US Navy G- jackets

how ironic

flying over arab land wearing arab clothing

oh the irony

probly made by terrorists to



Tex Houston wrote:

"Mike Yared" wrote in message
...
from http://www.washtimes.com/national/inring.htm
Buy Pakistani?
The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law

and
allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive

U.S.
aviator bomber jackets. The Defense Department has notified a U.S. leather
tanner that it will waive provisions of the law known as the Berry

Amendment
that requires the Pentagon to buy key components from U.S. manufacturers.

In
April, the Pentagon announced it would buy 12,000 to 30,000 of the brown,
fur-collared bomber jackets over the next several years.


I'm around the USAF a lot and I don't remember any such item as a brown
fur-collared bomber jacket as current issue. A-2 aircrew jacket maybe but I
think someone is describing a WWII item.

Tex

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Old September 13th 03, 02:39 AM
Gene Storey
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"Mike Yared" wrote

Buy Pakistani?


Socialism, or Capitalism: it's your choice.


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Old September 13th 03, 02:44 AM
Gene Storey
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"Aerophotos" wrote
sound like US Navy G- jackets

how ironic

flying over arab land wearing arab clothing

oh the irony

probly made by terrorists too


As opposed to a minority contractor front for the Mob.


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Old September 13th 03, 02:45 AM
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Subject: Bomber-jacket leather and our law
From: "Tex Houston" 777
Date: 9/12/03 6:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Mike Yared" wrote in message
...
from
http://www.washtimes.com/national/inring.htm
Buy Pakistani?
The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law

and
allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive

U.S.
aviator bomber jackets. The Defense Department has notified a U.S. leather
tanner that it will waive provisions of the law known as the Berry

Amendment
that requires the Pentagon to buy key components from U.S. manufacturers.

In
April, the Pentagon announced it would buy 12,000 to 30,000 of the brown,
fur-collared bomber jackets over the next several years.


I'm around the USAF a lot and I don't remember any such item as a brown
fur-collared bomber jacket as current issue. A-2 aircrew jacket maybe but I
think someone is describing a WWII item.

Tex




If you go to my website and click on "After Koblenz" I am wearing a fur
collared flight jacket, but I don't recall the
designation. It sure wasn't an A-2. The shot was made in 1944 at Florennes
Belgium after the Koblenz mission.

..


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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Old September 13th 03, 03:08 AM
phil hunt
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:05:42 -0400, Mike Yared wrote:
from http://www.washtimes.com/national/inring.htm
Buy Pakistani?
The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law and
allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive U.S.
aviator bomber jackets.


Do you know any economics theory? If not (and I suspect this is the
case, or you wouldn't have posted this), I suggest you look up
"comparative advantage" to see why it might well be in the interests
of both the USA and Pakistan to do this.

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Old September 13th 03, 11:02 AM
Cub Driver
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The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law and
allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive U.S.
aviator bomber jackets.


Sounds like a good idea to me. Goats don't have political opinions, do
they?

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com
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Old September 13th 03, 11:05 AM
Cub Driver
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Art, I found this on the web:

*******************************************

When the Air Force needs an authentic A-2 flight jacket for
hard-to-fit aviators, it comes to Flight Suits. Why? Because it knows
it can depend on us for quality materials, superior workmanship, and
guaranteed fit.
The original 1930's Army Air Corps A-2 was made from horsehide,
but the Air Force changed the specifications to seal brown goatskin
when it re-issued the A-2 in 1988. The design has remained the same as
in World War II.

The A-2 you get from us will be exactly the same jacket we supply
the Air Force. You can have an A-2 just like those we made for the
USAF Thunderbirds and President George W. Bush.

*******************************************

Do you like George Bush in that photo? That would decide the matter
one way or another


On 13 Sep 2003 01:45:24 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

Subject: Bomber-jacket leather and our law
From: "Tex Houston"
777
Date: 9/12/03 6:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Mike Yared" wrote in message
...
from
http://www.washtimes.com/national/inring.htm
Buy Pakistani?
The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law

and
allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive

U.S.
aviator bomber jackets. The Defense Department has notified a U.S. leather
tanner that it will waive provisions of the law known as the Berry

Amendment
that requires the Pentagon to buy key components from U.S. manufacturers.

In
April, the Pentagon announced it would buy 12,000 to 30,000 of the brown,
fur-collared bomber jackets over the next several years.


I'm around the USAF a lot and I don't remember any such item as a brown
fur-collared bomber jacket as current issue. A-2 aircrew jacket maybe but I
think someone is describing a WWII item.

Tex




If you go to my website and click on "After Koblenz" I am wearing a fur
collared flight jacket, but I don't recall the
designation. It sure wasn't an A-2. The shot was made in 1944 at Florennes
Belgium after the Koblenz mission.

.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com
 




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