Installing instruments and avionics in small aircraft

On Dec 31, 2:44 am, Martin Hotze wrote:
schrieb:

Dunno. Somehow shakes head just doesn't cut it. I really wish
the groups host (Google?)

there is no special host, and for chrissake this is not google at all.

would get into the 21st century and allow
more than just text here.

eeh, what do you know about usenet?

There are numerous times I've wished I could
include a drawing with a post, or a small photo.

then move on to a web based forum. THIS is usenet.

Or the sound of someone laughing himself to death. Or a
raspberry. A groan. Or a barfing sound. You know--the sort of things
that would add immensely to the conversation.

oh. really? invite all the folks to a chat (hopefully irc and not a
webbased thingy) or to a forum.

Got to be so nasty? I don't know much about computers or the
internet or usenet or anything else in cyberspace, and I suppose it
shows. I enjoy the give-and-take of the discussions and only if
someone persists in posting erroneous information do I lose my
patience. You give me no slack at all.
And Google is what I use for the groups. I understand that there
are others who use newsreaders or email-based stuff, but that's all I
know. I'm a 54-year-old Commercial Pilot/Instructor/Aviation College
teacher and aircraft mechanic, not a keyboard whiz. There are other
things to do that become a digital whiz, like building and flying
airpl;anes and boats and old trucks. You know, the *real* world out
there.

Dan

wrote
Dunno. Somehow shakes head just doesn't cut it. I really wish
the groups host (Google?)
would get into the 21st century and allow
more than just text here.

Sorry Dan, just 'ol timer mutterings. Back in the dark ages America On Line
gave their users access to newsgroups and we had to endured years of inane
AOL requests/comments. Now it's Google folk we grump at when we're tired.

To answer your question, newsgroups are by definition text based so we have
to rely on ":-)", "big grin", "::smirk::" etc. to convey non-text
information. As mentioned, there are web based and other new fangled
internet things (so I've heard!) that allow fancier conversations.


I'm a 54-year-old Commercial Pilot/Instructor/Aviation College
teacher and aircraft mechanic, not a keyboard whiz. There are other
things to do that become a digital whiz, like building and flying
airpl;anes and boats and old trucks. You know, the *real* world out
there.

Too true. Newsgroups have their use but they ain't real world.


Regards,

David Varidel

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There are 10 types of people in this world - those who use binary, and those
who don't.

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:42:48 +0100, Martin Hotze
wrote:

schrieb:

Got to be so nasty?

well, sorry - but the 'big masses' washing in through this
google-usenet-interface makes me think that the neverending September is
coming back.

I don't know much about computers or the
internet or usenet or anything else in cyberspace, and I suppose it
shows.

no, not really. :-)
most of the internet/usenet users care next to nothing about what they
use or what they do. This compares to a pilot who jumpes on a plane
without checklist and turns on every knob and kicks every switch without
knowing what he does.
It isn't really that hard to read up the basics, and it doesn't take
much time, too.

I enjoy the give-and-take of the discussions and only if
someone persists in posting erroneous information do I lose my
patience. You give me no slack at all.
And Google is what I use for the groups. I understand that there
are others who use newsreaders or email-based stuff, but that's all I
know.

using usenet through a webbased frontend is the second best way to
access the groups.

I prefer the text base *stuff* as it is less likely to contain
termites. It's the same reason my e-mail reader is "text only" as HTML
e-mail can be dangerous.


I'm a 54-year-old Commercial Pilot/Instructor/Aviation College
teacher and aircraft mechanic, not a keyboard whiz.

I was only slightly younger than that when I graduated from College
and started a new career( quit work and went back to college full time
at age 47 ). I did teach in college as a GA, but a good job offer came
along which ended my attempt at a masters in CS.


well then, welcome to usenet. bg The climate is sometimes cold.

Cold, hot, and sometimes...even in between.

There are other
things to do that become a digital whiz, like building and flying
airpl;anes and boats and old trucks.

Do 'em all. :-))


hmm.

You know, the *real* world out
there.

you're sure?
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000612

Now retired, having worked as a project manager installing large
networked computer systems, a developmental analyst, and sys admin
with a degree in computer science (earned at age 50) in my last
incarnation I'd say the link shows reality for a fair number in the
profession.

OTOH I fly ( http://www.rogerhalstead.com/833R/833R_frame.htm and am
instrument rated) , am building a Glasair III
http://www.rogerhalstead.com/G3_files/GIII_Diary.htm, Amateur Radio
Operator (Extra class)
http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/boatanch.htm (constructed my
own tower and antenna system
http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm ) and still do my own
climbing. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/Tower29.htm although
it takes me a lot longer to get "up there" than it used to. Also a
couple of hours up there is about it compared to spending most of the
day working on a tower.

In a previous life, or it seems like it, I was an instrument
technician for over 26 years and prior to that I farmed until age 21.
At that point I figured there had to be a better way to make a living.

I find, if a person puts their mind to it they can do lots of things
albeit sometimes accompanied by a lack of sleep.

Roger


Dan


;-)

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On Jan 1, 7:20*pm, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:42:48 +0100, Martin Hotze
wrote:





schrieb:

* * * Got to be so nasty?

well, sorry - but the 'big masses' washing in through this
google-usenet-interface makes me think that the neverending September is
coming back.

I don't know much about computers or the
internet or usenet or anything else in cyberspace, and I suppose it
shows.

no, not really. :-)
most of the internet/usenet users care next to nothing about what they
use or what they do. This compares to a pilot who jumpes on a plane
without checklist and turns on every knob and kicks every switch without
knowing what he does.
It isn't really that hard to read up the basics, and it doesn't take
much time, too.

I enjoy the give-and-take of the discussions and only if
someone persists in posting erroneous information do I lose my
patience. You give me no slack at all.
* * * And Google is what I use for the groups. I understand that there
are others who use newsreaders or email-based stuff, but that's all I
know.

using usenet through a webbased frontend is the second best way to
access the groups.

I prefer the text base *stuff* as it is less likely to contain
termites. It's the same reason my e-mail reader is "text only" as HTML
e-mail can be *dangerous.



I'm a 54-year-old Commercial Pilot/Instructor/Aviation College
teacher and aircraft mechanic, not a keyboard whiz.

I was only slightly younger than that when I graduated from College
and started a new career( quit work and went back to college full time
at age 47 ). I did teach in college as a GA, but a good job offer came
along which ended my attempt at a masters in CS.



well then, welcome to usenet. bg The climate is sometimes cold.

Cold, hot, and sometimes...even in between.



There are other
things to do that become a digital whiz, like building and flying
airpl;anes and boats and old trucks.

Do 'em all. :-))



hmm.

You know, the *real* world out
there.

you're sure?
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000612

Now retired, having worked as *a project manager installing large
networked computer systems, a developmental analyst, and sys admin
with a degree in computer science (earned at age 50) in my last
incarnation I'd say the link shows reality for a fair number in the
profession.

*OTOH I fly (http://www.rogerhalstead.com/833R/833R_frame.htm*and am
instrument rated) , am building a Glasair IIIhttp://www.rogerhalstead.com/G3_files/GIII_Diary.htm, Amateur Radio
Operator (Extra class)http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_fil...m*(constructed my
own tower and antenna systemhttp://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm) and still do my own
climbing.http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_fil...29.htmalthough
it takes me a lot longer to get "up there" than it used to. Also a
couple of hours up there is about it compared to spending most of the
day working on a tower.

In a previous life, or it seems like it, I was an instrument
technician for over 26 years and prior to that I farmed until age 21.
At that point I figured there had to be a better way to make a living.

I find, if a person puts their mind to it they can do lots of things
albeit sometimes accompanied by a lack of sleep.

Roger





* * * Dan

*;-)

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Much respect Roger.

Wil

On Jan 1, 2:42 am, Martin Hotze wrote:
You know, the *real* world out
there.

you're sure?
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000612

Dan

Good cartoon. I know people like that. They buy SUVs and then
are scared when they get off the pavement. Probably couldn't start a
campfire and roast a wiener. They're the ones that'll be afraid of
mice but will try to feed the bears.

Dan