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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
Gatt writes:
Especially if your tone, delivery and style conspicuously match that of people who have previoulsy challenged aviation here. I have never seen anyone challenge aviation here. I have seen people refuse to be intimidated by the yelping alpha dogs and playground bullies, but that's quite different. |
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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. . "Gatt" wrote: The same person posted the same sort of stuff a month or so ago under a different name, and hasn't acknowledged that he's the same guy. What name might that be? Don't remember. IIRC he was babbling about how Bournouli was wrong and how upper camber is irrelvant. Do you remember? -c |
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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
Dudley Henriques writes:
I am not a Naval Aviator. That title is reserved for the finest pilots in the world. There might be some Air Force pilots who disagree with that. You know Moore, if you spent a bit less time trying to discredit me and a bit more simply engaging me on a slightly more friendly basis, you and I might actually get along. You dislike personal attacks? You're choice; you can have the debrief notes, or you can stop this constant under posting of me requesting backup information on me. Or he can continue to attack you. |
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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
Le Chaud Lapin writes:
If eveyone in this group would simply take the advice that you just wrote, I think it would be a better group. I have been here only a few days, and I count no less than 7 insults by people I have never known. I imagine these individuals as being overweight and constipated, reading my posts, debating whether they should take a laxative or fire off an insult, the latter choice leaving them in the same state they were before they read my post. They are simply the typical males of USENET who have more testosterone than intellect and behave accordingly. It is a type of background noise that never goes away, so one must learn to ignore it. |
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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
Dudley Henriques writes:
A little more tact and just a bit less aggressiveness might be helpful in making your Usenet aviation experience more satisfying considering the experience levels ranging in decades rather than mere hours you will find on these forums. Claims of experience are valueless on USENET, because anyone can make claims. The only way to earn respect is to demonstrate competence, not to merely claim it. Credentials are a dime a dozen in this venue. |
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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
Gatt writes:
What you should imagine are pilots who risk their lives countless times between wings that are proven to work being told to do experiments by somebody who challenges proven technology and expects everybody to do experiments just to indulge your accusation that basically everything they know about aerodynamics is wrong. But that would not be accurate. It's more a matter of aggressive males who are highly insecure concerning their ignorance of many things and try to conceal their ignorance with puerile personal attacks. The only words they cannot utter are "I don't know." It's sort of like an IT guy telling Marines how to fight a war. Probably not going to get you invited to the NCO's club. What about Marines telling IT guys how to program computers? Don't take it personally. It just is. If you were the first person to come in here and do it they'd probably go easier, but, alas, you're not. No, that doesn't matter. The behavior is always the same, and it is as predictable as clockwork, and as unavoidable as the tide. If you have questions about aerodynamic science, perhaps you should first ask those who use it on a regular basis rather than coming in an suggesting their understanding of their area of expertise is deficient. Or AT least let people know you're a pilot, builder or aerodynamics professional. Using something is not the same as understanding it, as so many accidents in aviation prove. |
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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
Le Chaud Lapin writes:
Things would go a lot easier if people would focus on the physics and ease up on the ad hominem attacks. Not for people who don't understand the physics and dread admitting it. For them, personal attacks are about the only option. |
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Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. . "Gatt" wrote: The same person posted the same sort of stuff a month or so ago under a different name, and hasn't acknowledged that he's the same guy. What name might that be? Hey, I found it: It's under the thread "John Travolta Sues His Home Airport" circa August 10. The person's exact words were "Camber does not produce lift" and he quoted a NASA site that contradicted him. He also said "Many pilots don't understand that angle of attack is everything. That's why many of them get into trouble in unusual situations. " I'll give you guys ONE guess who that person was, and you probably don't need a hint, but he's undoubtedly the most accomplished Flight Simulator pilot on the newsgroup. -c |
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Lapin = MX: Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
"Le Chaud Lapin" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 4, 4:46 pm, "Gatt" wrote: Not true. I do not recall any "accusation that basically everything they know about aerodynamics is wrong." I wrote that there are some things in the Jeppensen book that are just plain wrong, as is the explanation of action/reaction with regard to downwash. Wow, Lapin. For somebody who wrote: "In any case, I have never assumed any alias other than the one that I am currently using in this group, because I've only recently begun to post in this group," your statement sure sounds AWFUL similar to: "A wing creates a downward acceleration called downwash which contributes to lift." - MXManiac "Hint: the same thing applies to your "downwash theory of lift"." - Doug Semler to MX, August 3, in the thread "John Travolta Sues His Home Airport. -ALSO- "Things would go a lot easier if people would focus on the physics and ease up on the ad hominem attacks." -Lapin "Perhaps if they were less obsessed with the poster and concentrated more on the topic such anomalies would not arise." - MXManiac, 8/4/2007 "My handle has been the same for over a decade." - Laupin "I have never assumed any other alias on USENET other than the one that I am a currently using ..." - Laupin "But beyond that, my aliases has always been the same." (AliasES? AliasES have always been the same? I'm not Sherlock Holmes here, but I SWEAR you've been saying your handle has been the same for over a decade.) -c |
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Lapin = MX: Why Airplanes Fly - Voids Above A Planar Sheet
Gatt, I think you're wrong about the dual id. If you take a look at
LCL's posting history you'll find groups and technology far different than our resident jerk. I agree there are common characteristics, but i do not think MX is capable of isolating the two distinct patterns I'm seeing. I've admited many times I'm not a pilot so don't attempt to speak with authority on piloting techniques, but I am the resident shrink. In this matter the odds are you're in error. |
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