Sisteron SGP 2014

Le dimanche 11 mai 2014 01:15:09 UTC-4, GR8 a écrit*:
http://www.sgp.aero/final2014.aspx

Hi
On the last day I watch the race for a while and notice the old LS8 was at par
with all those flap sailplane??? The choic of route was/is very important. Maybe those pilot are good in any ship

Gilles

Perhaps the most important bit.....
Thanks, Gilles.

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:31:20 AM UTC-7, s6 wrote:

Maybe those pilot are good in any ship

Gilles

W dniu sobota, 17 maja 2014 03:14:59 UTC+2 użytkownik GR8 napisał:
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:15:09 AM UTC-4, GR8 wrote:

http://www.sgp.aero/final2014.aspx



The race was won by a great french glider pilot Didier Hauss, strictly on the merits of his superior tactic and his knowledge of local weather and terrain. Gliders didn't really matter.

knowledge of local weather and terrain - yes, it was crucial

Didier is good, but Sebastian is better - last SGP qualifying (18m class):
http://www.soaringspot.com/grandprix...ay-by-day.html
The Sebastian advantage on his area was much greater than in Didier's on Final SGP

Bruce Taylor is underrated - he deserved at least a podium.

Well, first let's congratulate Didier for his win. It was great to follow these races. Didier was clearly flying all-out, taking risks and sometimes paying the price. Sebastian writes in his blog http://www.sebastiankawa.pl/6039/kol...rzostw-swiata/ :"(...) Didier had shown he is at his own backyard and there is no better competitor".

During 17th EGC (18m) the previous year Didier was repeatedly making bold/unorthodox tactical moves as well, he was not flying just do defend his position, making the show great for everybody. We are lucky there are so many individualistic pilots up there in the rankings to watch.

About the 50kg/m2 limit: 6 Ventus gliders out of 8 total placed in top 8.
The 50kg/m2 rule seems to favor Ventus most (LS 8 aside). Hard to dismiss the possibility that the 50kg/m2 rule favors some gliders over the other, skewing the "pure design" comparisons.

I'd like to see a one design grand Prix. No excuses. My vote is for PW5's.

If plantain and gkurek care to see a _real_ attack on the Diana 2, they

should seek out an article in Gliding International from a couple years ago,

in which former 15m European Champion Steven Raimond proposes the Diana 2 be

banned from international 15m competition and goes on to state his reasons

(note: I totally disagree with Steve's proposal, and have not heard of

anyone at the IGC seriously considering it).

- I never stated it was a "real attack" on any particular glider type. My point is pure simple: if FAI has a 15 meter class definition in place, it is not fair to come out with the affirmative action loupe. Im actually looking forward to seeing Duckhawk competing against all these types mentioned above, hopefully no disadvancing proposal gains support then.

On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:34:14 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
I'd like to see a one design grand Prix. No excuses. My vote is for PW5's.

C'mon Tony, go all the way. GAPAs....

Craig

Nice one, Tony.
My Australian club - Lake Keepit - has hosted quite a few GP races. Mostly 18m, but some others like the recent Open Class GP. Retiring the Junior, there are now 2 new PW5s as early solo machines. A good location for the first in your race series.
It would need to fit in the current schedule. There's a "Mini Grand Prix" scheduled 5th to 8th of September, and the Australian Qualifying Grand Prix 16-22 November.
The club fleet, including the basic single seaters, are all for rent during the week.
keepitsoaring.com
Jim


On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:34:14 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
I'd like to see a one design grand Prix. No excuses. My vote is for PW5's.

Give me a break!

GP is designed to be a spectacle for the public, showcasing the best.
The move to 18m will even out any anomalies (diana2) between gliders.
I am not adverse to one design, just pick ASG29, Ventus3, JS1 or similar
instead of the abject failure of the PW5!
Tom




At 05:18 19 May 2014, Craig Funston wrote:
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:34:14 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
I'd like to see a one design grand Prix. No excuses. My vote is for
PW5's.

C'mon Tony, go all the way. GAPAs....

Craig

Another issue with the Diana2 (looking earlier in the thread it is a
subject
that came up) is that Sebastian was not happy ridge running on the strong
Northerly days. He had to slow down due to the speed on the ridges while
the
rest of us just put the stick further forward. He was vocal that it was
"unfair",
but it is "horses for courses", the Diana has an advantage most of the
time,
just not in this case.
Tom (first across the line on said strong ridge day)!







05:18 19 May 2014, Craig Funston wrote:
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:34:14 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
I'd like to see a one design grand Prix. No excuses. My vote is for
PW5's.

C'mon Tony, go all the way. GAPAs....

Craig