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Old November 17th 03, 02:33 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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I don't doubt
that a private ATC would be more efficient, but it wouldn't matter as
none of us could afford to fly privately any longer.


Why would private ATC be more efficient?


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Old November 17th 03, 04:39 PM
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"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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I don't doubt
that a private ATC would be more efficient, but it wouldn't matter as
none of us could afford to fly privately any longer.


Why would private ATC be more efficient?


Automation, same as the post office.


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Old November 17th 03, 04:49 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net...

"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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I don't doubt
that a private ATC would be more efficient, but it wouldn't matter as
none of us could afford to fly privately any longer.


Why would private ATC be more efficient?

The controllers wouldn't be eligible for NATCA membership.
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Old November 17th 03, 06:06 PM
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Automation can be done, but concrete is not green.

New concrete is green.


Hmmm, you think you can sell that idea to the tree huggers?


You don't approve of trees?


Trees are a good thing, do I advocate automation of ATC. The "pour
concrete" advocates also have a point, albeit not politically viable.


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Old November 17th 03, 09:41 PM
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Commercial aviation has far more money to spend than any GA operation
short of the Fortune 500 corporations. I agree that those with the
dough will get the service, but it won't be us who fly anything less
than 12,500 lbs.


Why should it be any other way? "Those who bears the costs, gets the goods".




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Old November 17th 03, 09:41 PM
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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which makes it non responsive to general aviation?

a very bad deal..

ATC clearances go on the auction block... how bad do you really need to

go..


During peak times, through major traffic areas....


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Old November 17th 03, 09:44 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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BTIZ wrote:

cheaper I might agree with... but safer??

so the pilots (or surviving families) sue the "private ATC company" for

the
screw up.. and not the gov't..


If that happens, the next contract will cost the Feds lots more money, so

it
won't be cheaper anymore.


Has costs to government ever keep them back?


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Old November 17th 03, 09:46 PM
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Peter Gottlieb wrote:

Unless they write legislation absolving the private companies from
liability.


Oh, I'm sure they can. They did that with the USPS when that got

privatized.

That's the problem if ATC "privatization" is done like USPS, or the phone
companies, power utilities....


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Old November 17th 03, 09:47 PM
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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I don't doubt
that a private ATC would be more efficient, but it wouldn't matter as
none of us could afford to fly privately any longer.


Why would private ATC be more efficient?


Automation, same as the post office.


Profit motive (over the long term) is a great incentive. What is the FAA's
incentive?




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Old November 17th 03, 09:57 PM
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"Tom S." wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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I don't doubt
that a private ATC would be more efficient, but it wouldn't matter

as
none of us could afford to fly privately any longer.


Why would private ATC be more efficient?


Automation, same as the post office.


Profit motive (over the long term) is a great incentive. What is the FAA's
incentive?


FAA wants to move back to a regulatory stance of promoting aviation, IMO.


 




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