Air Force One

I was watching the PBS documentary they were showing this week
about AF1, and as they had shown the progression from the planes used
back in Franklin Roosevelt's tenure as President, to the B707 from
Kennedy to Reagan, to the current AF1 (at least that they showed in the
documentary, since Bush Jr. was in it), to be a B742 variant. It got me
wondering...

The B742 is just about all phased out, with the B744 and the
B777 doing the majority of the long haul runs of the Boeing line (yes,
the 767 series is there, but doesn't have the range of the 747 and
777), So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

BL.
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Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380?

Somehow I rather doubt that the president (and certainly not the
current administration) would buy Airbus.

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They flew the 707 until the only other operators were flying dodgy cargo
trips into South America with it. They'll fly the 747 until the same
situation applies.

Then they'll buy American, even if that means a Citation X because Boeing
bit the big one.

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"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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I was watching the PBS documentary they were showing this week
about AF1, and as they had shown the progression from the planes used
back in Franklin Roosevelt's tenure as President, to the B707 from
Kennedy to Reagan, to the current AF1 (at least that they showed in the
documentary, since Bush Jr. was in it), to be a B742 variant. It got me
wondering...

The B742 is just about all phased out, with the B744 and the
B777 doing the majority of the long haul runs of the Boeing line (yes,
the 767 series is there, but doesn't have the range of the 747 and
777), So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

BL.
--
Brad Littlejohn | Email:
Unix Systems Administrator, |
Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto
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In article , A Guy Called
Tyketto wrote:

[snip]

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the
VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and
everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going
to be flying in a Boeing aircraft.

--
Bob Noel

There is no way that this administration would buy Airbus or any other
aircraft with a French connection.
There would not be any contest, it would be Boeing all the way.
Bob

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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article , A Guy Called
Tyketto wrote:

[snip]

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the
VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and
everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going
to be flying in a Boeing aircraft.

--
Bob Noel

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

To put it the other way round, it is hard to imagine the french
President flying Boeing in the foreseeable future.
IMHO, the present political relations have little to do with it.

We are in a "buy European" (whenever possible) situation somewhat
similar to your "buy American" situation.

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement?

The AF1 747s fly so many less hours than a commercial plane and are so
meticulously maintained, that you will be wearing Depends in a nursing home
before anyone even talks about replacing them.

So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?


It might depend on Boeing. IIRC, during the competition for the
VC-25, Boeing effectively said that they would do anything and
everything to win the contract. iow - the President was going
to be flying in a Boeing aircraft.


I vaguely remember somehting about AF1 being required to have four
engines (here's the 2 vs.4 ETOPS argument again...). Urban legend or
not? Think Boeing could hang two extra engines on a Vista-Cruiser or
whatever they've decided to call the 7E7 when the time comes?? :-)

I was reading on an English news site 2 weeks ago that there may be a "Blair
Force One" sometime in the immediate future. The British government feels
that the prime minister should have his own airborne command &
control/flying hotel. Currently for oversea trips, the PM just flys on
charted British Airways aircraft.

You can bet if it ever happens, it will be an airbus.

Ardna



"Gilles KERMARC" wrote in message
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

To put it the other way round, it is hard to imagine the french
President flying Boeing in the foreseeable future.
IMHO, the present political relations have little to do with it.

We are in a "buy European" (whenever possible) situation somewhat
similar to your "buy American" situation.

"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
...
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B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?


I think they ought to spiff up a BUFF & use that.