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Therasa wrote:
Despite the facts, the Kerry and DNC smear machine will continue to tilt toward windmills. That is why Kerry will lose. They lie too much and people know it. Nope, it is all a setup. Kerry is really a sacraficial lamb. He wages the fight against the incumbent Bush, sets Bush up to win. Then in 2008 a new Republican candidate is up against Hillary (who has four years to clean up her act). If Kerry were to win in 2004, then Hillary wouldn't be in line to run in 2008 and in 2012 she would be too old. Damn! Rick Clark |
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In article .net,
"Dudley Henriques" writes: "B2431" wrote in message ... (John S. Shinal) Date: 9/23/2004 2:17 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: Ed Rasimus wrote: rationally as usual 4.) Bush spent his first two years of ANG duty full time attending USAF pilot training, survival schools and operational qualification in the F-102. OOOOOOps. He was really flying jets and engaging in a rather risky business. Apparently he drank and partied some, too. Can you imagine a young fighter pilot doing such a thing ? I am stunned, I tell you. Hey, don't start rumours like that. All fighter pilots are modest, chaste, sober..... etc. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired What amazes ME is that the extreme left apparently doesn't know much about fighters either!! If I was looking for a nice cushy safe non dangerous type airplane to fly to avoid getting myself hurt because I was a flaming coward, the Deuce would be the LAST fighter in the inventory I'd be happy to be paired up with. Bush did a good job in the 102; not the easiest of mounts for a young Lt to handle. The President is a member of a very exclusive club of fighter pilots who got REAL up on subjects like induced drag in turns and adverse yaw. Not to say the 102 was a killer, but it DID take an above average driver to work the airplane properly, and Bush is still here last time I looked !!!:-) Just so, Dudley. If he were looking for a really cushy spot, there were several Air National Guard Air Transport Squadrons in the region at the time. The 181st ARefS in Texas was flying KC-97L Tankers, the 151st MAS in Tennesee was flying C-97Gs as transports, The 105th MAS in Tenessee was flying C-124s, as were the 125th MAS and 185th MAS in Oklahoma, the 128th MAS and 158th MAS in Georgia, and the 183rd MAS in Mississippi. If you wanted a cushy, no risk job, getting into one of those units and raising and lowering the gear from the right seat while watching the Flight Engineer twiddle the throttles as you get up to stretch your legs seems like it. With the crew complements on those beasts, nobody'd know if you were there or not. (Note for the humor impaired: This is not intended in any way to denigrate the job of the Load Warriors, or to make light of their jobs. The ANG and Air Force Reserve transport units have been important parts of out military air transportation system since the early 1960s, flying important stuff anyplace the Active COmpnent has flown. But that said, other than the slight but non-zero chance of being attacked by a ravenous mob of cannibals (It happened in the Congo in 1965), there wasn't much of a chance to get hurt. ) -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message ... The title of CinC does not entitle you to circumvent the law. It did for the previous holder of that title. |
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in
: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... snip extremely well done common sense response from Ed Why don't you guys get it? So, the forged documents aren't the issue---it's the "true" story that can't be validated without the forgery that's important. I don't know, Ed--according to the DNC the real issue *is* the forged documents. Terry McAuliffe has now gone on the record claiming that the forgeries are *really* the work of a nefarious Republican dirty tricks artist trying to besmirch the saintly name of the DNC and its candidate. Which would of course be a double-rebound plot on a level with the very best that Roger Ludlum or LeCarre could have come up with... The DNC is apparently cracking under the strain; no doubt the next breathless refrain we'll hear from Terry will be a sputtering denunciation of the VRWC (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy), as they try to again explain how and what Joe Lockhart was doing talking to Burkett after being asked to call him by CBS producer Mapes...amybe this time with a more realistic explanation than the laughable one offered to date. Brooks Hey,if the DemocRATs are that stupid to accept those obviously forged documents,ignoring several experts,then they do not DESERVE to be in control of the US of A. -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message ... Kerry sounded to me like someone who *wants* things in Iraq to be as bad as they can. I'm not sure this message will be received well by anyone to the right of Kerry on the political spectrum. Gee, let's see, to the right of Kerry would be........ an overwhelming majority of American voters. |
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"OXMORON1" wrote in message ... Nope, it is all a setup. Kerry is really a sacraficial lamb. He wages the fight against the incumbent Bush, sets Bush up to win. Then in 2008 a new Republican candidate is up against Hillary (who has four years to clean up her act). If Kerry were to win in 2004, then Hillary wouldn't be in line to run in 2008 and in 2012 she would be too old. Of course, before the 2008 election we'll have the 2006 election, where Hillary will be up for reelection in the Senate. Who will run against her? Recall that in 2000 Rudi Guilani was running for that seat before he was diagnosed with cancer and withdrew. What if he decides to run again in 2006? He'd be a formidable opponent for Hillary. Will she be a viable presidential candidate in 2008 if she's defeated in 2006? |
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I meant to post this responsive message only in us.military.history and failed
to notice that it had been cross-posted to rec.aviation.military among other NGs. I apologize for adding my comments on an obvious OT thread to the existing clutter on the subject. Sorry. |
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Hal Hanig wrote:
Charlie Tuna wrote: Steven P. McNicoll wrote: wrote in message ... Nope. He never signed a form 180. Yes he did. Face it if this was Clinton pulling this sort of BS you'd be having hemorrhoids from the strain. Clinton had no military records to release as he left the country to avoid military service entirely. A little thing called a 'Roads Scholarship' and the number of US students that are offered one per year was (or still is) under 2 dozen so accepting the offer got him a student deferment which was quite legal and proper way of staying out of the war for at lest 4 years, longer if you do post grad work. So don't pull that crap of him leaving the country to 'dodge the draft' Just to avoid confusion, I think you were referring to a Rhodes Scholarship. No, I think he got it right. Clinton sure hit the "Road" to Great Britain to protest, and then came back here to a college deferrment, being the draft dodger he is. |
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"Hal Hanig" wrote in message ... I meant to post this responsive message only in us.military.history and failed to notice that it had been cross-posted to rec.aviation.military among other NGs. I apologize for adding my comments on an obvious OT thread to the existing clutter on the subject. Sorry. Geeze, I wish you'd decide on one personna and stick to it. Or are you going to reserve your "George Z Bush" identity for the off-topic posts like the one you are decrying here? Brooks |
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