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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down for maintenancefor a couple of months
Hi, all.
I have a PW-5 that I bought but have never flown. Since the PW-6 is the 2-place trainer for the PW-5, I was hoping to train in a PW-6 for and hour or so before attempting the PW-5. I just spoke with Seminole Lake Gliderport (here in Florida) who said that their PW-6 is down for maintenance for a couple of months. Unfortunately SSA's search engine(as far as I know) doesn't have a search filter to find out which gliderports have a PW-6 available for training. Does anyone know if there is one in (or near) Florida? or how can I find out where are all the PW-6's available for training in the US? Ben |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down formaintenance for a couple of months
On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Hi, all. I have a PW-5 that I bought but have never flown. Since the PW-6 is the 2-place trainer for the PW-5, I was hoping to train in a PW-6 for and hour or so before attempting the PW-5. I just spoke with Seminole Lake Gliderport (here in Florida) who said that their PW-6 is down for maintenance for a couple of months. Unfortunately SSA's search engine(as far as I know) doesn't have a search filter to find out which gliderports have a PW-6 available for training. Does anyone know if there is one in (or near) Florida? or how can I find out where are all the PW-6's available for training in the US? Ben On Facebook, on 23 August, Chilhowee Soaring Association talks about their new PW-6 being picked up. Most glass two-seaters (or L-23) would provide the training you would need to fly a PW-5. |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down for maintenancefor a couple of months
Sugarbush has a PW6 in Vermont.
Chilhowee just took delivery of a brand new PW6 in Tennessee. I have a lot of time in the PW6 at Seminole lake and it is a very nice flying sailplane. It's very similar to an ask-21 in handling. I have not flown a PW5 but have flown the 6 with people that have and they say they are almost identical. Those 3 locations are the only ones I am aware of on the east coast. Franklin Burbank |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down formaintenance for a couple of months
On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 4:38:35 AM UTC-7, Citrus Soaring wrote:
Sugarbush has a PW6 in Vermont. Chilhowee just took delivery of a brand new PW6 in Tennessee. I have a lot of time in the PW6 at Seminole lake and it is a very nice flying sailplane. It's very similar to an ask-21 in handling. I have not flown a PW5 but have flown the 6 with people that have and they say they are almost identical. Those 3 locations are the only ones I am aware of on the east coast. Franklin Burbank |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down formaintenance for a couple of months
Or just train in an ASK21 closer to home.
We used to train in 2-33s for the 1-26. The PeeWee is no more different to an ASK21 than a 1-26 to a 2-33. Jim |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down formaintenance for a couple of months
On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 03:56:33 -0700, charlesethridge wrote:
Hi, all. I have a PW-5 that I bought but have never flown. Since the PW-6 is the 2-place trainer for the PW-5, I was hoping to train in a PW-6 for and hour or so before attempting the PW-5. Its a while since I flew a PW-5, but that was directly after stepping out of a Twin Astir and was not a problem. I have only aero-towed in one: I have no idea about PW-5 behaviour on a winch or other ground launch. The one issue I was warned about was PIO on aero-tow take-off: this can be an issue because the PW-5 has a rather light wing loading and a relatively short spacing between nose and main wheels. If you raise the nose too far and too soon the PW-5 can pop off the ground quite suddenly and over-correction can drop it back onto the ground equally suddenly, which is where the short wheelbase is likely to provoke a PIO. That said, it wasn't an issue because I'd been warned. I raised the nose a small amount as soon as the elevator became effective, just as I would with a G103, ASK-21, Puchacz or any other nose-wheel glider, and let it run on its main wheel until it lifted off quite nicely as the speed built up. Once off the ground and flying behind the tug during its ground run, it was happy to sit there until the tug took off. A practise run in any nose-wheel training glider would be a good idea if you normally fly tail-wheel gliders. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down formaintenance for a couple of months
The PW-5 is one of the easiest flying and safest gliders out there.
It flies much easier and lighter than the ASK-21 or any other sailplane I've flown. I flew my PW-5 on my 7th solo flight during flight training with no issues (and loved it!) I did not find take off to be an issue. The tow rope will lift the nose wheel off the runway slightly and off you go. I agree with Martin - don't be too anxious to start flying. The ship will do that for you at the correct speed. The controls are really light and, after a while, you just think of rolling into a thermal and the glider just does it for you. The only caution would be landing. If you land with more than 1/2 airbrakes, the ground might come up and meet you a little too fast. Enjoy your new PeeWee! Lou |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down formaintenance for a couple of months
On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 5:56:36 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi, all. I have a PW-5 that I bought but have never flown. Since the PW-6 is the 2-place trainer for the PW-5, I was hoping to train in a PW-6 for and hour or so before attempting the PW-5. Does anyone know if there is one in (or near) Florida? or how can I find out where are all the PW-6's available for training in the US? Ben If Chilhowee doesn't have theirs up and going yet, you could probably enroll in a class at Mississippi State in Starkville, MS and fly the one their Soaring Club owns. To see all the currently registered PW-6s in the US, you can look he http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...t=PW6&PageNo=1 Hope this helps! Steve Leonard |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down formaintenance for a couple of months
Likely the closest thing I've flown to a PW-5 has been a G-103, but (IMO) the
advice given previously in this thread has been solidly good. Were the advice excerpted immediately below universally applied to "3-wheeled gliders" (G-103, ASK-21, PW-X, etc.) I'd bet Real Money on there being fewer "liftoff pitch-related silliness" incidents than there've historically been... [Snip...]I raised the nose a small amount as soon as the elevator became effective, just as I would with a G103, ASK-21, Puchacz or any other nose-wheel glider, and let it run on its main wheel until it lifted off quite nicely as the speed built up. Some instructors will likely argue semantics, but IMHO, one way of making an end run around the (implied above) need to "raise the nose a small amount as soon as the elevator becomes effective" is to begin the ground roll with full aft stick and then *relax* back pressure as the nose wheel gradually comes off the ground, halting the stick motion at some deck/fuselage angle rolling only on the center wheel and hold that fore/aft position until the plane levitates into the air on its own. In a G-103 at 5300' msl behind a 260hp Pawnee, the acceleration rate is sufficiently gradual as to make the "stick relaxation rate" a no-brainer. The advantage (in my mind) is there's no need to wonder if you've sufficient airflow over the controls to be *able* to raise the nose with a timed pitch input... More good advice... A practise run in any nose-wheel training glider would be a good idea if you normally fly tail-wheel gliders. Have fun with your PW-5!!! Bob W. P.S. My suggestion presumes a nose hook connection... --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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Where can I train in a PW-6? Seminole Lake's is down for maintenance for a couple of months
Have fun with your PW-5!!! Bob W. P.S. My suggestion presumes a nose hook connection... --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com A word of caution. If you are using winch or autotow with the CofG hook be aware they can accelerate to full climb in the blink of an eye even with full forward stick if the initial acceleration is too fierce. I discovered this the hard way and only regained any control at 100ft. |
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