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"Alan Dicey" wrote in message ... ArtKramr wrote: Subject: For Fliers Only... The three most useless things in aviation are - runway behind you - altitude above you - and a tenth of a second ago. The ORIGINAL third most useless thing was "a field grade bombardier!" |
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
"George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: "George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: "John Banister" wrote in message ... or "If you're lost, go faster. That way you won't be lost as long." Believe it or not......I once heard a guy when asked by a tower where he was, say, "I'm over some buildings that are under me". Sounds like some guys I used to fly with in Troop Carrier. (^-^))) George Z. I'll tell you George; it's absolutely amazing what you pick up in transmission working radio in close in a high density traffic area on a busy day over a protracted period of time. I've sat there and howled at some of the stuff I heard going on. I actually heard a guy on a GCA once, in near zero zero conditions...I forget just exactly how bad it was...but it was approach marginal at any rate. This guy was on a GCA final in weather up to his armpits. I know because I was right behind him holding. All the way down final , he's working the final controller, a female with a deep sexy voice, for all he's worth, trying to make a date with her! She's parrying his amorous comments with stuff like...."We'll see 466.....but for now you're a bit high and left.....turn right 2 degrees and down 50 PLEASE!!!!!!" I mean, we were breaking up!!!!! He made it ok, but I never did find out if he got the date. I hope so. She REALLY DID sound sexy!!! :-)) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired For personal email, please replace the z's with e's. dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt That's where we aerial truck drivers had it all over you jocks. We had a trained guy in the other seat shooting the GCA while his boss man was taking care of the important future events of the evening. (^-^))) Yeah, I know.......we in the "fast lane" heard from time to time about large airplanes existing in the world, but we tried our damndest to avoid them if at all possible!! :-)))) I heard a good one about you guys once....I think it actually happened on a United flight into Philadelphia one night. Story goes that the second officer, (fresh out of Emery Riddle I think and a new hire through Stapleton) was on a first time route check with an older crew. The chief stew, an "older" gal than the SO, was bent over between the cockpit seats talking to the Captain as the airplane made the marker. She asked the Captain what the tone was and the SO piped in a smart crack back at her, "It's the virgin light....goes off when there's a virgin in the cockpit" She supposedly shot back at him, "Well then junior.....when and if you manage to get this F*****g crate on the ground, write it up because it doesn't work worth a ****" Don't know for sure if it actually happened, but the guy who told me was the Captain on the flight! :-)) DH Now, Dud, that one sounds completely believable. I wonder if the skipper was able to stop laughing by the time he had to round out. (^-^))) George Z. |
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: "George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: "George Z. Bush" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: "John Banister" wrote in message ... or "If you're lost, go faster. That way you won't be lost as long." Believe it or not......I once heard a guy when asked by a tower where he was, say, "I'm over some buildings that are under me". Sounds like some guys I used to fly with in Troop Carrier. (^-^))) George Z. I'll tell you George; it's absolutely amazing what you pick up in transmission working radio in close in a high density traffic area on a busy day over a protracted period of time. I've sat there and howled at some of the stuff I heard going on. I actually heard a guy on a GCA once, in near zero zero conditions...I forget just exactly how bad it was...but it was approach marginal at any rate. This guy was on a GCA final in weather up to his armpits. I know because I was right behind him holding. All the way down final , he's working the final controller, a female with a deep sexy voice, for all he's worth, trying to make a date with her! She's parrying his amorous comments with stuff like...."We'll see 466.....but for now you're a bit high and left.....turn right 2 degrees and down 50 PLEASE!!!!!!" I mean, we were breaking up!!!!! He made it ok, but I never did find out if he got the date. I hope so. She REALLY DID sound sexy!!! :-)) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired For personal email, please replace the z's with e's. dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt That's where we aerial truck drivers had it all over you jocks. We had a trained guy in the other seat shooting the GCA while his boss man was taking care of the important future events of the evening. (^-^))) Yeah, I know.......we in the "fast lane" heard from time to time about large airplanes existing in the world, but we tried our damndest to avoid them if at all possible!! :-)))) I heard a good one about you guys once....I think it actually happened on a United flight into Philadelphia one night. Story goes that the second officer, (fresh out of Emery Riddle I think and a new hire through Stapleton) was on a first time route check with an older crew. The chief stew, an "older" gal than the SO, was bent over between the cockpit seats talking to the Captain as the airplane made the marker. She asked the Captain what the tone was and the SO piped in a smart crack back at her, "It's the virgin light....goes off when there's a virgin in the cockpit" She supposedly shot back at him, "Well then junior.....when and if you manage to get this F*****g crate on the ground, write it up because it doesn't work worth a ****" Don't know for sure if it actually happened, but the guy who told me was the Captain on the flight! :-)) DH Now, Dud, that one sounds completely believable. I wonder if the skipper was able to stop laughing by the time he had to round out. (^-^))) George Z. Knowing this particular Captain (an aerobatic student of mine), he probably had something going with the stew......or she might have been the one in the entire organization he had missed!! :-)) D |
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I actually heard a guy on a GCA once, in near zero zero conditions...I
forget just exactly how bad it was...but it was approach marginal at any rate. This guy was on a GCA final in weather up to his armpits. I know because I was right behind him holding. Dudley, It's a good story, but I'm afraid I find it a bit hard to believe. 1. In my experience, admittedly years ago, we were instructed not to roger for further transmissions and to break off the approach if we failed to hear the controller for about three seconds. Actually, it sounded like the controller never took his (her) finger off the mike button, which would block any calls from the pilot. 2. If you were holding, you would be on a different frequency. The final controller has a channel all his (her) own, for obvious reasons. vince norris |
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vincent p. norris wrote:
I actually heard a guy on a GCA once, in near zero zero conditions...I forget just exactly how bad it was...but it was approach marginal at any rate. This guy was on a GCA final in weather up to his armpits. I know because I was right behind him holding. Dudley, It's a good story, but I'm afraid I find it a bit hard to believe. 1. In my experience, admittedly years ago, we were instructed not to roger for further transmissions and to break off the approach if we failed to hear the controller for about three seconds. Actually, it sounded like the controller never took his (her) finger off the mike button, which would block any calls from the pilot. 2. If you were holding, you would be on a different frequency. The final controller has a channel all his (her) own, for obvious reasons. vince norris Precisely correct Vince, my experiences were quite a few years ago too but my long term memory is crystal clear, all our GCA's were done on 134.1, and that's all that was done on there, GCA's. Mind you, I have no idea what I had for breakfast this morning... (or whether for that matter) -- -Gord. |
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message ... I actually heard a guy on a GCA once, in near zero zero conditions...I forget just exactly how bad it was...but it was approach marginal at any rate. This guy was on a GCA final in weather up to his armpits. I know because I was right behind him holding. Dudley, It's a good story, but I'm afraid I find it a bit hard to believe. 1. In my experience, admittedly years ago, we were instructed not to roger for further transmissions and to break off the approach if we failed to hear the controller for about three seconds. Actually, it sounded like the controller never took his (her) finger off the mike button, which would block any calls from the pilot. 2. If you were holding, you would be on a different frequency. The final controller has a channel all his (her) own, for obvious reasons. vince norris Your pick up is basically correct. I said final, and it was a bit before final if I remember it exactly. Can't speak for the violation of GCA protocols, ( I think it was 5 seconds no trans- go missed at the time ) but I can certainly assure you that monitoring other frequencies while stacked in close or holding was common practice, which was exactly what we were doing on this occasion. I was working the hold on nav 1 and my right seat was on com 2. (We were a D18 Beech) To be completely exact, most of the discourse we heard did occur in the early part of his approach...and that was I believe, before the 5 second no trans go missed call by the controller. But she DID sound sexy as hell!!!! DH |
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Dudley done wrote:
...most of the discourse we heard did occur in the early part of his approach...and that was I believe, before the 5 second no trans go missed call by the controller. But she DID sound sexy as hell!!!! I've met a couple of female controllers who sounded like that, too. However, in real life they were both many kilos over weight, and years past their anticipated age. -- Jack "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." -- Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, 1895 |
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"Jack" wrote in message ... Dudley done wrote: ...most of the discourse we heard did occur in the early part of his approach...and that was I believe, before the 5 second no trans go missed call by the controller. But she DID sound sexy as hell!!!! I've met a couple of female controllers who sounded like that, too. However, in real life they were both many kilos over weight, and years past their anticipated age. -- Jack It's funny about things like that. It could be that the heavier they get, the lower their voice gets until at last they reach that perfect scenario of maximum weight vs maximum sexy voice!! :-)) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired For personal email, please replace the z's with e's. dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt |
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Jack wrote:
I've met a couple of female controllers who sounded like that, too. However, in real life they were both many kilos over weight, and years past their anticipated age. Or...what's much worse...finding out that their inventory of equipment has an item or two more than you were comfortable with. -- -Gord. |
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Jack wrote: Dudley done wrote: ...most of the discourse we heard did occur in the early part of his approach...and that was I believe, before the 5 second no trans go missed call by the controller. But she DID sound sexy as hell!!!! I've met a couple of female controllers who sounded like that, too. However, in real life they were both many kilos over weight, and years past their anticipated age. If you consider those two characteristics to be a problem, I must suspect you have little experience with such ladies. You probably have missed a lot. Bob McKellar, who usually does not bring up "kilos" and "years" as subjects of proper conversation...... -- Jack "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." -- Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, 1895 |
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