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Mike Marron
wrote:.I, for one, just don't think EAA is everything it's all cracked up to be (no pun intended). That is debatable..........sincerely!! I can see why many folks feel this way. VL |
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"MLenoch" wrote in message ... Mike Marron wrote:.I, for one, just don't think EAA is everything it's all cracked up to be (no pun intended). That is debatable..........sincerely!! I can see why many folks feel this way. EAA has demonstrated excellent political skills. |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:
EAA has demonstrated excellent political skills. True. Glad ya' pointed that out. But do us light sportsters a big favor and stick with the "heavy iron" pitot tubes and stuff, OK? |
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"Mike Marron" wrote in message ... "Tarver Engineering" wrote: EAA has demonstrated excellent political skills. True. Glad ya' pointed that out. But do us light sportsters a big favor and stick with the "heavy iron" pitot tubes and stuff, OK? Take it to the rah, then. |
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Hi Andrew Ahhhhhhh, because of that experience, you ended up joining the Army and became a bird gunner so you could shoot aircraft down with Blowpipes, eh?????????? Cheers...Chris |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:31:47 GMT, Andrew Chaplin
wrote: Steve Hix wrote: You did good Gordon. I envy your son, being as there is nothing much to match the feeling of your first flight (passenger or not). Of course, now the kid is ruined for life. He's going to want to do it again. And again. ... :} I'll say he did good, all right. It takes me back to my first flight in a Cessna (150, I think; I wasn't old enough to discriminate) at the Maxville Highland Games in 1964. It cost my mother $20 or so for the two of us (a lot out of her budget) for a 15 minute flight and I really think I was an excuse so my mother could justify going up herself. I was enraptured. When the pilot turned on final after about only eight minutes, my mother pointed this out to him, so we did a touch-and-go and another little jaunt. Certainly the high point of my life up to that point. Memories, my first flight was in an AeroCommander, circa 1063. It belonged to a friend of my mother's, so no cost (I doubt if we could have afforded it). Wonderful a/c, and as I recall a super pilot. Al Minyard |
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av8r wrote:
Hi Andrew Ahhhhhhh, because of that experience, you ended up joining the Army and became a bird gunner so you could shoot aircraft down with Blowpipes, eh?????????? I am yet another guy whose amblyopia was bad enough to disqualify him for pilot, yet keep him V1 (actually, 111112, damn it). I could have gone Nav, but chose MARS instead. My troop commander sent me on Blowpipe course when I should have been doing the NOIB, so I would up with my third choice, the Herbies. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.) |
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No kidding? You must be *damn* old to pre-date CAP and their 60-year record
of free flights for youngsters. That's very wonderful Gord but you missed my point entirely (goes back to what I said above regarding you simply trying to start a flamewar). Yor posting made it clear that you felt that getting a free first ride was some sort of modern invention. If thats incorrect, it sure read that way. snip rest of the post that turns my son's first flight experience into an "All About Mike" post Suspicions confirmed (Ol' Gord's ready to rrrrrrrrRRRUMBLE!) Mike, I asked two questions at the bottom of my post. What was it, and, second question, was everyone ok? So you couldn't answer either question that I asked, told me its my fault you couldn't answer it, then spent half a page telling us all about your issues with EAA, and your trike and why its somehow better than what everybody else flies. Does that sum it up? More of the same fighting words. First, I saw only one question asking about the type of weird French-looking plane that, according to you, couldn't get out of its own way and crashed. I don't recall saying or suggesting it 'couldn't get out of its own way', although you've stated that I did now, twice. I looked, but damn if I could find a second question. 1-800-Contacts. What was it again? With regards to my so-called "issues" with EAA and my trike, well, thems YOUR words not mine. Well, your post was about three lines of answering mine, and several paragraphs taking shots at EAA. How would you characterize your relationship with them? We've all seen 'em before..the usual assortment of vintage trainers such as BT-13's, T-6's, Stearman's, T-28's etc. [yawn] In the 'world according to Mike', there are fabulous trikes, and everything else pales. I get it. We all get it. Is that a royal "we" or do you have a mouse in your pocket? Good answer. along with the boring, underpowered, hot and cramped Cessnas, Pipers, Beeches et. al. tired old spamcans [even bigger YAWN] Luckily, I got my son a ride in a gorgeous Grumman Yankee. I know you'll have a disparaging comment about it too, but it won't diminish it, or my son's exciting experience. Huh? I remember my first exciting experience in a 172 spamcan around the age of 10 or 11 years. We (the CFI, me in the right seat, my Dad in the back seat) took off out of Stapleton Int'l and went up for an all-too-brief sightseeing trip around the foothills of the Rockies. I was literally bouncing up and down in my seat barely able to contain myself -- 'till I looked behind and saw my ol' man calmly sitting there all sprawled out in the backseat looking like he was bored stiff (which is undoubtedly was, being the old fighter pilot he was). To this day, I think he went along just to be amused by my antics, but either way, the only "disparaging" or "diminishing" fighting words I can see from where I'm sitting are coming from YOU. Let me try then - I think your trike is [YAWN] and [BORING]. You shoot down what everyone else flies, then act like I am the one that came on with napalm. What I AM learning from you is that my own ride, the SH-2F, probably is as boring for people to read about as your trike. So, it is a growth experience for me to read your posts after all. More fightin' words. Somebody **** in your Wheaties this morning? You did, Mike. Instead of replying that you had no idea what the French aircraft might be, my two simple questions brought out yet another "all about Mike's fabulous trike" reply. It gets old. Now, if you really want to impress your son, ask Poberenzy or some EAA high roller to take your kid up in the EAA Official P-51 that supposedly belongs to all us loyal EAA dues-paying members [ya right] They'd probably look at you as if you're an idiot or something even for asking! That certainly sounds like you were simply trying to help answer my questions, doesn't it? My son was greatly impressed by the free ride that EAA provided. No one looked at us like idiots, no one told us we had to pay to help maintain a warbird half a continent away - they just gave my son a great experience. I don't understand why you'd reply to my initial post for no reason other than to crack on the EAA and every other type of GA except your own. I did not, but you obviously have chosen to respond in a provocative manner. ....... I believe your initial reply was not nearly as cordial as you now pretend. (Trikes RULE) Yeah, Mike, we all got your message. Sheesh. There ya' go again with the "WE" crap. And I don't believe that you got the message at all. The message is; for a tiny fraction of the cost one can fly a trike or fixed-wing light sport aircraft and have just as much FUN as you have in your Glasair or Poberezny has in his P-51 or Joe GA has in his Cessna spamcan. And "WE" don't need EAA or any other organization to introduce newbies at any age to aviation. Nobody will argue that the "Young Eagles" program is a noble program, but not at the expense at missing the organization's charter (my not-so-humble opinion and many others too). Trikes and fixed-wing light sport aircraft pilots, not EAA or any EAA "program" are rejuvunating General Aviation. Don't look now, but the growth of trikes and light sport aircraft over the past decade has been phenomenal, no thanks to EAA who originally shunned the light sport crowd in favor of planes costing $100,000 or more. Your turn...you go get 'um Gord! Grrr... Thanks for the Trike World update. I'm going off to thank the folks that read my first post and simply gave me good info in return. Gordon |
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Small GA is less safe than operating a motorcycle, on the road. (US) Seriously? I've seen a heck of a lot more downed motorcycles than GA a/c. Actually, injuries from riding horses exceed those of all other sports including riding motorcycles. (Trust me - I'm an avid rider who's been bucked off, and I work with injured riders) However, I admit I don't know how the stats would match up against GA flying. I believe the horses would still "win" - they seem to want to think on their own! |
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