Oh, he's good...

On Feb 10, 3:13 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Doesn't your Jodel have that funky differential braking system, or is it a
homebuilt one?

Homebuilt. Hydraulic heel brakes. Master cylinders are from early
1950's Austin automobiles. Still working.

Dan

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On Feb 10, 10:46*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Don't know if you saw this one as well.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A2BPcurREpo&feature=related

Bertie

I've been to the show, The Flying Circus, several years ago Bertie,
Bealton, VA. Thanks for the link, brings back memories.


Ah, so you've seen this behaviour before!

There was a guy on the west coast who used to do a routine in a Champ. THe
airplane looked like a wreck and him and a bunch of other "bums" would
assemble it as the airshow went on fighting with each other and parts
falling off. It had rags glued to the trailing edges and li'l Abner type
patches sewn all over it. The guy would take off and the right aileron
would come off just after takeoff. He'd then proceed to do everything the
Champ was capable of with the one aileron missing. I think he had the
ignition rigged to cause a backfire every now and then as well.. Most of
the act was designed to make it look as the the airplane was out of control
and about to crash at any moment...


Bertie

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You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the
mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light
plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of
Preflight Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came
home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick
thing he used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the
usual
suspects for years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded
like
BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red
Bank
when he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was their
airplane that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and
had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that
mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo
shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower cotter
pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone
through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when the
stick came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that point. I
swear
I saw him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had
no
way of knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the mike
and
I don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool
and
tried to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.
Oh. OK. That's what I heard, in fact.
Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration
community. There is an award in his name and he is probably the
only
person ever to be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going
through
Naval Flight training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never
had
a
bad word for anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the display
but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

Jesus.
I don't think the rear stick on a J-3 comes out. Maybe they do but
I'm
guessing the airplane was modded. Some of the tugs I flew had no
rear
stick and no rear rudder pedals, but they were heavily modified.


Bertie

I've never actually seen the lower attach bracket on that stick.
This
plane might very well have been modified because it was our
understanding that they used it for aerial photography in normal
operation. I would imagine that would be a 337 if so.


Can't really see why piper would have made it removable.


Bertie

It might very well have been done in the field. This particular Cub
was
used for photo shoots by the FBO as well as a rental, so it makes
sense
they would have done a 337 on the stick. Anyone shooting from the back
seat with several cameras would find a stick in their way for sure.
I've had photographers show up with so many cameras they could pass
for
a Japanese tourist :-)

A friend of mine took some photographer up in a 150 with the right door
removed for some air to air photography. The photographer got so
absorbed in his shoot that he undid his belt and ended up hanging out of
the airplane. I mean out! Standing on the gear leg and hanging on to the
strut.

Well, so I was told.


Bertie

wrote in
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On Feb 10, 3:13 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Doesn't your Jodel have that funky differential braking system, or is
it a homebuilt one?

Homebuilt. Hydraulic heel brakes. Master cylinders are from early
1950's Austin automobiles. Still working.


Cool. Someset, Dorset, A35?

I've only flown one Jodel. It's an amazing airplane. A 1040, I think.
100hp, originally a Potez, but the guy got tired of finding parts so he put
an O-200 in it. It sould actually carry four out of a short field and three
with full fuel which was about 6 hours IIRC. cruised at about 100knots as
well.Why would anyone fly a 150 after having met one of those?



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:jPSdnQVqtcu-
:
You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the
mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light
plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of
Preflight Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came
home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick
thing he used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the
usual
suspects for years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded
like
BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red
Bank
when he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was their
airplane that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and
had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that
mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo
shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower cotter
pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone
through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when the
stick came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that point. I
swear
I saw him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had
no
way of knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the mike
and
I don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool
and
tried to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.
Oh. OK. That's what I heard, in fact.
Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration
community. There is an award in his name and he is probably the
only
person ever to be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going
through
Naval Flight training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never
had
a
bad word for anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the display
but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

Jesus.
I don't think the rear stick on a J-3 comes out. Maybe they do but
I'm
guessing the airplane was modded. Some of the tugs I flew had no
rear
stick and no rear rudder pedals, but they were heavily modified.


Bertie

I've never actually seen the lower attach bracket on that stick.
This
plane might very well have been modified because it was our
understanding that they used it for aerial photography in normal
operation. I would imagine that would be a 337 if so.

Can't really see why piper would have made it removable.


Bertie

It might very well have been done in the field. This particular Cub
was
used for photo shoots by the FBO as well as a rental, so it makes
sense
they would have done a 337 on the stick. Anyone shooting from the back
seat with several cameras would find a stick in their way for sure.
I've had photographers show up with so many cameras they could pass
for
a Japanese tourist :-)

A friend of mine took some photographer up in a 150 with the right door
removed for some air to air photography. The photographer got so
absorbed in his shoot that he undid his belt and ended up hanging out of
the airplane. I mean out! Standing on the gear leg and hanging on to the
strut.

Well, so I was told.


Bertie

Anything for the shot! :-)) Remember that picture some time back of the
pilot standing on the wheel of his Cub propping it in flight? :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

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You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on
the
mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light
plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of
Preflight Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and
came
home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake
stick thing he used to do, and in fact I heard that story from
the
usual
suspects for years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded
like
BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red
Bank
when he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was
their airplane that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and
had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that
mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo
shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower
cotter
pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone
through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when
the stick came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that
point. I
swear
I saw him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had
no
way of knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the
mike
and
I don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool
and
tried to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.
Oh. OK. That's what I heard, in fact.
Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration
community. There is an award in his name and he is probably the
only
person ever to be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going
through
Naval Flight training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never
had
a
bad word for anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the
display
but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

Jesus.
I don't think the rear stick on a J-3 comes out. Maybe they do
but
I'm
guessing the airplane was modded. Some of the tugs I flew had no
rear
stick and no rear rudder pedals, but they were heavily modified.


Bertie

I've never actually seen the lower attach bracket on that stick.
This
plane might very well have been modified because it was our
understanding that they used it for aerial photography in normal
operation. I would imagine that would be a 337 if so.

Can't really see why piper would have made it removable.


Bertie

It might very well have been done in the field. This particular Cub
was
used for photo shoots by the FBO as well as a rental, so it makes
sense
they would have done a 337 on the stick. Anyone shooting from the
back seat with several cameras would find a stick in their way for
sure. I've had photographers show up with so many cameras they could
pass
for
a Japanese tourist :-)

A friend of mine took some photographer up in a 150 with the right
door removed for some air to air photography. The photographer got so
absorbed in his shoot that he undid his belt and ended up hanging out
of the airplane. I mean out! Standing on the gear leg and hanging on
to the strut.

Well, so I was told.


Bertie

Anything for the shot! :-)) Remember that picture some time back of
the pilot standing on the wheel of his Cub propping it in flight? :-)


Well, he was a barnstromer who did that all the time. I have another pic
in some book or other of the same guy doing that in a Rearwin Junior or
something. Might have been an American Eaglet or a MonoPrep, though. A
little parasol three cylinder airplane anyhow.



Bertie

Cool. Someset, Dorset, A35?

I've only flown one Jodel. It's an amazing airplane. A 1040, I think.
100hp, originally a Potez, but the guy got tired of finding parts so he put
an O-200 in it. It sould actually carry four out of a short field and three
with full fuel which was about 6 hours IIRC. cruised at about 100knots as
well.Why would anyone fly a 150 after having met one of those?

Bertie

Mine's a D-11. All wood, fabric cover. A-65 Continental. 85 kt
cruise. Two seats. Good STOL airplane unless it's a high DA day and at
gross. 15 gallons and 4 or 5 GPH, so not a lot of range.
Even this one makes a 150 look anemic.

Dan

wrote in
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Cool. Someset, Dorset, A35?

I've only flown one Jodel. It's an amazing airplane. A 1040, I think.
100hp, originally a Potez, but the guy got tired of finding parts so
he put an O-200 in it. It sould actually carry four out of a short
field and three with full fuel which was about 6 hours IIRC. cruised
at about 100knots as well.Why would anyone fly a 150 after having met
one of those?

Bertie

Mine's a D-11. All wood, fabric cover. A-65 Continental. 85 kt
cruise. Two seats. Good STOL airplane unless it's a high DA day and at
gross. 15 gallons and 4 or 5 GPH, so not a lot of range.
Even this one makes a 150 look anemic.


Yeah, I've seen a D12 fly, I think, take off and it was amazing. It was
over fifty feet high at less than 800' of runway and that was with two guys
on and only a light breeze. I beleive it had an A-65. All of those little
wooden French airplanes are really nice. I always fancied an Emeraude or a
SIPA.


bertie

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:43:52 -0500, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:jPSdnQVqtcu-
:
You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of Preflight
Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick thing he
used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the usual suspects for
years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded like BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red Bank when
he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was their airplane
that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower cotter pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when the stick
came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that point. I swear I saw
him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had no way of
knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the mike and I
don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool and tried
to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.

Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration community.
There is an award in his name and he is probably the only person ever to
be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going through Naval Flight
training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never had a bad word for
anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the display but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

************************************************** **********************

I was taking dual in a Rearwin Jr back in the 30's. Came across the
fence and was starting to flare and pulled the stick out of its holder
on floor. Bird kind of fell to ground and dribbled down the R/W and I
kept straight with rudder until stopped. (My best landing of the day
) I then poked the instructor in the back and said what should I do
with this. He said when did that come out and I said as I was trying
to flare and his cigar went from one side of his face to the other, He
reached around and stuck stick in socket and gave it a 180 degree
turn and said lets go try that again. Some times your lucky and some
times your not.

Big John