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request for fighter pilot statistic
Anybody have any leads to reputable information about fighter pilot fatality statistics? For example, in terms of miles, is commuting more dangerous than flying a fighter plane? (I say no, many say yes.) Context: Can a Coward Become a Fighter Pilot? (Yeah, I know. That's so 2000.) -chris PP-ASEL-IA |
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request for fighter pilot statistic
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:18:36 GMT, "gatt"
wrote in :: Anybody have any leads to reputable information about fighter pilot fatality statistics? For example, in terms of miles, is commuting more dangerous than flying a fighter plane? (I say no, many say yes.) Context: Can a Coward Become a Fighter Pilot? (Yeah, I know. That's so 2000.) I'll bet lots of folks who frequent rec.aviation.military can respond to your inquiry. I'll crosspost this followup there for you. |
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You can get statistics on each individual plane in terms of accidents
per hour. http://afsafety.af.mil/ is the main page You probably want this page http://afsafety.af.mil/AFSC/RDBMS/Fl...aft_stats.html This is the website where you file FOIAs to get crash information. Lots of sleaze-bags on the net charge for this information. Shrub flew the F-104. It is really an intercept aircraft, so it wouldn't be likely to see a dog fight, especially in Alabama. In Shrub's favor, while it would be the plane of choice to fly in the theater if you didn't want to see action, the F-104 was a deathtrap compared to other aircraft, strictly from an operational standpoint. Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:18:36 GMT, "gatt" wrote in :: Anybody have any leads to reputable information about fighter pilot fatality statistics? For example, in terms of miles, is commuting more dangerous than flying a fighter plane? (I say no, many say yes.) Context: Can a Coward Become a Fighter Pilot? (Yeah, I know. That's so 2000.) I'll bet lots of folks who frequent rec.aviation.military can respond to your inquiry. I'll crosspost this followup there for you. |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
For example, in terms of miles, is commuting more dangerous than flying a fighter plane? (I say no, many say yes.) What time period? The past ten years, the 1940s or since the beginning of aviation? Your results would vary dramatically depending on the range of events of the time, I think. james |
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Whether the term of reference is "miles" or "hours", I'll only offer
that I don't personally know any daily commuters who have died in that endeavor. I've known and flown with at least a hundred guys who died in tactical fighters. That evidence is only anecdotal, but it works for me. As for "can a coward become a Fighter Pilot"? The clear answer is no. A coward might become a pilot flying fighters, but would never be a Fighter Pilot. |
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request for fighter pilot statistic
I assume that "Shrub" is your intellectual colloquialism for the
President of the United States. If so, you should then have some command of facts before spouting off. The aircraft the President flew while in Texas Air National Guard service was the F-102, NOT the F-104. He flew the Deuce in Texas, not in Alabama. He flew AF jets for more than five years (more than twice as long as John Kerry's military service). The F-102 was a single-seat, single-engine delta winged interceptor. Like all Century series single-seat, single-engine jets it could kill you on any given day. |
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I've always heard that the F-104 was a superb aircraft for what it was
designed for (high speed, high altitude intercept), but by the time it was operational the needs had changed, and the attempts to adapt it to the needs of the time played to it's weaknesses. It was freakin' fast (first plane capable of sustained Mach 2+), and held records of the day for altitude and time to climb. I've seen a parked one at the museum in Ottawa, Canada. Smallish in nature, but hot lines... a looker and real "sports car." The "missle with the man in it" is indeed an interesting, if not particularly successful aircraft. wrote in message oups.com... You can get statistics on each individual plane in terms of accidents per hour. http://afsafety.af.mil/ is the main page You probably want this page http://afsafety.af.mil/AFSC/RDBMS/Fl...aft_stats.html This is the website where you file FOIAs to get crash information. Lots of sleaze-bags on the net charge for this information. Shrub flew the F-104. It is really an intercept aircraft, so it wouldn't be likely to see a dog fight, especially in Alabama. In Shrub's favor, while it would be the plane of choice to fly in the theater if you didn't want to see action, the F-104 was a deathtrap compared to other aircraft, strictly from an operational standpoint. Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:18:36 GMT, "gatt" wrote in :: Anybody have any leads to reputable information about fighter pilot fatality statistics? For example, in terms of miles, is commuting more dangerous than flying a fighter plane? (I say no, many say yes.) Context: Can a Coward Become a Fighter Pilot? (Yeah, I know. That's so 2000.) I'll bet lots of folks who frequent rec.aviation.military can respond to your inquiry. I'll crosspost this followup there for you. |
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I got the number wrong. However, I do recall comments about what Shrub
flew not being particularly safe. Jase Vanover wrote: I've always heard that the F-104 was a superb aircraft for what it was designed for (high speed, high altitude intercept), but by the time it was operational the needs had changed, and the attempts to adapt it to the needs of the time played to it's weaknesses. It was freakin' fast (first plane capable of sustained Mach 2+), and held records of the day for altitude and time to climb. I've seen a parked one at the museum in Ottawa, Canada. Smallish in nature, but hot lines... a looker and real "sports car." The "missle with the man in it" is indeed an interesting, if not particularly successful aircraft. wrote in message oups.com... You can get statistics on each individual plane in terms of accidents per hour. http://afsafety.af.mil/ is the main page You probably want this page http://afsafety.af.mil/AFSC/RDBMS/Fl...aft_stats.html This is the website where you file FOIAs to get crash information. Lots of sleaze-bags on the net charge for this information. Shrub flew the F-104. It is really an intercept aircraft, so it wouldn't be likely to see a dog fight, especially in Alabama. In Shrub's favor, while it would be the plane of choice to fly in the theater if you didn't want to see action, the F-104 was a deathtrap compared to other aircraft, strictly from an operational standpoint. Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:18:36 GMT, "gatt" wrote in :: Anybody have any leads to reputable information about fighter pilot fatality statistics? For example, in terms of miles, is commuting more dangerous than flying a fighter plane? (I say no, many say yes.) Context: Can a Coward Become a Fighter Pilot? (Yeah, I know. That's so 2000.) I'll bet lots of folks who frequent rec.aviation.military can respond to your inquiry. I'll crosspost this followup there for you. |
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Fatalities per hour
F102: 75 /2606799=2.9e-5 F16D: 32 /710960=4.5e-5 Eh, not so dangerous after all. Maybe Shrub isn't all that dumbya after all. Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:18:36 GMT, "gatt" wrote in :: Anybody have any leads to reputable information about fighter pilot fatality statistics? For example, in terms of miles, is commuting more dangerous than flying a fighter plane? (I say no, many say yes.) Context: Can a Coward Become a Fighter Pilot? (Yeah, I know. That's so 2000.) I'll bet lots of folks who frequent rec.aviation.military can respond to your inquiry. I'll crosspost this followup there for you. |
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