LS-4 ? What about 1-26 ?

Actuallly if you look at the statistics (in the UK at least) the Puchacz is
only dangerous when there is an instructor on board! The low time pilots
flying solo don't seem to have any problems.

Basil


"Paul" wrote
Hi Janusz

After all if a
glider is not used to spin, it will have a lower rate of spin accidents.
I have flown some 9 different glider types, from Blaniks to Ventus B
and the Puchatz would have to be the easiest glider to fly. The part I
found most curious is the fact that very experienced pilots seem to have
got them selves into trouble.

Paul

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Actuallly if you look at the statistics (in the UK at least) the Puchacz
is
only dangerous when there is an instructor on board! The low time pilots
flying solo don't seem to have any problems.

Well, maybe this means that the instructors should look at the mirror more
carefully? A routine, bad habits? Could be. I have heard that Puchacz
requires the 'handbook' recovery (the pupils who fly alone just do it like
it is stated in their handbook) so maybe there's a bug - in a so called
'human factor'?

Regards,


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Finding a way to produce a 'cheap' LS4 isn't going to be the result of
re-shuffling the compromises that produced the LS4 in the first place.
Composite gliders are made the way they are because hand labor can produce
a
high performance product in low quantities. There's not a lot a room for
improvement in that process. (Finding cheap labor will be a short term
solution since once they can produce a quality product, they won't be
cheap
anymore.)

Not only cheap, but also qualified enough. If You move the production to
China, then when they reach the moment they will be able to produce a brand
new LS-4 which will be of acceptable quality there may be too late, and the
learining process also costs. Isn't it better to move the production some
500km East to the place where there is a lot of guys which are able to
produce it 'with their eyes closed' and still at 3-4US$ / workhour, huh?

Regards,

Janusz,

You are absolutely correct. The cost of production in old SZD Bielsko
will be bit lower then in some other countries capable of
manufacturing sailplanes. The crew from SZD Bielsko is extremely
highly skilled, so the quality of gliders built in that factory should
be and it is very good. But currently they only make Junior, Puchacz,
Acro and the 55. Should the SZD Bielsko management approach the
Germans who own the manufacturing rights to the LS4 and ask them for
their business or should the SZD Bielsko revive the SZD48-3, improve
slightly and sell it worldwide for very competitive price? Make it the
glider of choice for the U.S. Sport Class and the European Club Class?
This bird can also compete (just for fun I suppose) in the standard
class worldwide. The Jantar Std. 3 flies pretty good and with some
minimal training most pilots that are current can fly it safely.
Well...just something to think about...

Interesting thread on HG list this morning. WRT E/$ rate, Atos VX
hangglider may soon cost $20K.

Frank Whiteley