The last word on yEnc

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:52:28 GMT, Maple1 wrote:

I did not use the term corrupt as a mater of fact I did not say that the
files get corrupted I said there are few different methods of of codeing
in YENC that is why in Thunderbird some are decode some are not.

That's correct, you did not use the term "corrupt", you used the word
"problems" which could mean anything, so instead of nit picking and
splitting hairs over which word you did or didn't use, I will repeat
what I said: Using Agent Forte, I download hundreds of yEnc files
from many different newsgroups and I don't have any "problems" with
any of them.

If you choose to use cheap, dysfunctional software to access Usenet,
then don't blame yEnc for your problems!

And if Yenc saves so much bandwidth Why the Hell does it still send s JPG in
a Multi Part File?

For the same reason that large JPGs, which are NOT yEnc encoded, get
sent in multiple parts.

Unless, of course, you are suggesting that evil and malicious software
vendors have done this terrible thing just to annoy people like you.

On the 23rd of July a poster calling himself "me" sent a NON-yEnc JPG
image to the aviation news group which consisted of 81 separate
parts. The vast majority of posters in this group send very SMALL low
resolution images so you don't see much in the way of multi-parts, but
in some of the other picture news groups where files are very large,
nearly all of them are split into many parts even though they have no
special encoding, just plain, old fashioned UUencode. Why? Because
if you try sending a LARGE file in one piece, there is an excellent
chance that any error in transmission will cause the posting to fail.
If you see something along the lines of (*/81) or [81/81] next to the
file header - it can be any number, that tells you that the file was
split into that many pieces when it was sent, even if on your news
reader it only shows up as one file, because your software has
automatically joined all the separate parts together... just like my
software joins all the separate yEnc bits together.

I have also read angry posts from people here who saw a NON-yEnc JPG
which their software had not joined automatically into one file,
claiming that it was a yEnc file simply because it came in many
separate parts, which of course is absolute nonsense.

Not understanding what's going on is not a sin, but lashing out in
frustration and blaming things and people, who are not at fault, is a
sin.

As some one posted in another thread, it really does seem like it's in
one ear and out the other.

Elmo

I wrote


Here is a good reason

YENC is not one encoding method there are a few different methods all
called YENC The code is not cosistaint that is why even Thunderbird has
problems with it.


Ricardo replied


That's strange. I have been downloading hundreds of yEnc images per
month, using Forte Agent, from many different news groups for several
years now and I can't recall the last time I had file corruption
problems.

If what you claim is true, then I would be having those problems too.

Ricardo

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:10:57 GMT, "Glenn"
wrote:

If you don't want to become a "computer freak", then perhaps watching
TV would be more suitable for you.

That has got to be one of the stupidest comments mate.

Based on the "tone" of your comments, I would suggest that I am not
your mate, bub.

lot's of people are not computer geeks. nor do they want to be.
I see a lot of geeks that are borderline addicts that have no social life.

Before you start generalising which group you wish to belong to,
accept that others use the internet as a tool and don't wish to become one.

It's true, there are those who use the Internet as a tool, and then
there are those who are not the sharpest tools in the shed, don't know
how to use the Internet, and so set about blaming others for their own
inadequacies...

Yes, you are right, my comments are very stupid, and you are very wise
for pointing this out to me.

Elmo

Why not start a news group dedicated strictly for
yEnc so we don't have to put up with it here

--
John Crawford


Everything I Like Is either immoral,
Illegal, or Fattening

If posters sent individual pictures the right size, no multi part would ever
be needed. This is not a Movie NG.
It is a NG for aviation PICTURES.



"Elmo von Thud" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:52:28 GMT, Maple1 wrote:

I did not use the term corrupt as a mater of fact I did not say that the
files get corrupted I said there are few different methods of of codeing
in YENC that is why in Thunderbird some are decode some are not.

That's correct, you did not use the term "corrupt", you used the word
"problems" which could mean anything, so instead of nit picking and
splitting hairs over which word you did or didn't use, I will repeat
what I said: Using Agent Forte, I download hundreds of yEnc files
from many different newsgroups and I don't have any "problems" with
any of them.

If you choose to use cheap, dysfunctional software to access Usenet,
then don't blame yEnc for your problems!

And if Yenc saves so much bandwidth Why the Hell does it still send s JPG
in
a Multi Part File?

For the same reason that large JPGs, which are NOT yEnc encoded, get
sent in multiple parts.

Unless, of course, you are suggesting that evil and malicious software
vendors have done this terrible thing just to annoy people like you.

On the 23rd of July a poster calling himself "me" sent a NON-yEnc JPG
image to the aviation news group which consisted of 81 separate
parts. The vast majority of posters in this group send very SMALL low
resolution images so you don't see much in the way of multi-parts, but
in some of the other picture news groups where files are very large,
nearly all of them are split into many parts even though they have no
special encoding, just plain, old fashioned UUencode. Why? Because
if you try sending a LARGE file in one piece, there is an excellent
chance that any error in transmission will cause the posting to fail.
If you see something along the lines of (*/81) or [81/81] next to the
file header - it can be any number, that tells you that the file was
split into that many pieces when it was sent, even if on your news
reader it only shows up as one file, because your software has
automatically joined all the separate parts together... just like my
software joins all the separate yEnc bits together.

I have also read angry posts from people here who saw a NON-yEnc JPG
which their software had not joined automatically into one file,
claiming that it was a yEnc file simply because it came in many
separate parts, which of course is absolute nonsense.

Not understanding what's going on is not a sin, but lashing out in
frustration and blaming things and people, who are not at fault, is a
sin.

As some one posted in another thread, it really does seem like it's in
one ear and out the other.

Elmo

I wrote


Here is a good reason

YENC is not one encoding method there are a few different methods all
called YENC The code is not cosistaint that is why even Thunderbird has
problems with it.


Ricardo replied


That's strange. I have been downloading hundreds of yEnc images per
month, using Forte Agent, from many different news groups for several
years now and I can't recall the last time I had file corruption
problems.

If what you claim is true, then I would be having those problems too.

Ricardo