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Old March 14th 06, 07:29 PM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/touretzky00.html

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Old March 16th 06, 09:47 AM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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One of the many fans of the http://www.parishioners.org wrote:
http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/touretzky00.html


David Touretzky led a massive effort by hackers and other Internet
anarchists to republish the code intended to prevent copying of the
contents of DVDs.


That's the best those retards can come up with?

You *do* know that copying DVD's is *fair use* and that their
"protection" is an impediment to that, right?

And what do you have against "hackers"? Do you really have to be *that
jealous* of people who have more computer skills than yourself?

And I thought Scientology teaches you *not* to have such kneejerk reactions.

- NRen2k5
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Old March 16th 06, 06:11 PM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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NRen2k5 wrote:
One of the many fans of the http://www.parishioners.org wrote:
http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/touretzky00.html


David Touretzky led a massive effort by hackers and other Internet
anarchists to republish the code intended to prevent copying of the
contents of DVDs.


That's the best those retards can come up with?

You *do* know that copying DVD's is *fair use* and that their
"protection" is an impediment to that, right?

And what do you have against "hackers"? Do you really have to be *that
jealous* of people who have more computer skills than yourself?

And I thought Scientology teaches you *not* to have such kneejerk reactions.

- NRen2k5


Hacking is a felony, you fool.

~~~~
Victoria ("Tory" "Magoo") Christman: "F*ck you!"
(She was found in contempt of court for refusing to give up her
harassment.) She disconnected from husband and son. Just ran out of
them.
~~~~
"I thought I was an alien myself. So I am in fact a space alien invader
disguised as psychiatrist plotting and conspiring all day long." --
Senior psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam
"ECT (Electro Convulsive Therapy), one of the best validated medical
treatment in the history of medicine." -- Senior psychiatrist Ulf
Brettstam
And now dig this: http://www.ect.org/effects.shtml
~~~~
Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell, from Houston, Texas, is a documented
hate monger, liar and spammer:
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/barwell.htm
He is member of the weird and money oriented SubGenius cult but
hypocritically attacks and defames Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
Barwell signed his postings as "pope", and his mental state is
questioned by others. Barwell wrote he loves cats in white wine sauce,
drinks beer, rum and loves skunks.
~~~~
French hate monger Roger Gonnet: "I am a patented criminal, I got every
vices, and I have as single fixed idea and only obsession humanity's
death, (me living, everyone else dead). I am preaching satan and
hells... I am a monarchist-royalist as well as a Stalinist-Hitlerian
strong follower; I hate every people."
~~~~

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Old March 16th 06, 06:18 PM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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In article .com,
says...

NRen2k5 wrote:
One of the many fans of the
http://www.parishioners.org wrote:
http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/touretzky00.html


David Touretzky led a massive effort by hackers and other Internet
anarchists to republish the code intended to prevent copying of the
contents of DVDs.


That's the best those retards can come up with?

You *do* know that copying DVD's is *fair use* and that their
"protection" is an impediment to that, right?

And what do you have against "hackers"? Do you really have to be *that
jealous* of people who have more computer skills than yourself?

And I thought Scientology teaches you *not* to have such kneejerk reactions.

- NRen2k5


Hacking is a felony, you fool.


You don't even know what 'hacking' is, cowardly thief.

Zinj
--
Scientology is an 'Applied Religious Philosophy'
It's the 'application' that's objectionable.
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Old March 16th 06, 06:29 PM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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In message .com on
16 Mar 2006 10:11:19 -0800, "Uncle Tom's manor"
wrote:


Hacking is a felony, you fool.


Since you fancy yourself a lawyer, kindly *cite* the exact U.S. Code
statute that forbids "hacking" and makes it a felony crime.

Reverse engineering of copyright protection access control systems
for purposes of software interoperability is explicitly allowed for
under DMCA.

http://digital-law-online.info/lpdi1.0/treatise48.html

This is exactly what the DeCSS code was written for, because the DvD
ROM reader vendors were not providing code for the Linux platform
due to there support for the Microsoft monopoly.

The U.S. Copyright statutes:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...7----000-.html

specifically allow backup copies of programs to be made and kept, and
these often have copyright protection measures that have to be
circumvented in order to obtain the lawful backup copy.

Before you go making libelous criminal allegations against Dr.
Touretsky, maybe you should do your ****ing legal homework
first you malicious malcontent moron.

Jay Random User





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Old March 17th 06, 06:28 AM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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In article .com, Uncle Tom's
manor says...


NRen2k5 wrote:
One of the many fans of the http://www.parishioners.org wrote:
http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/touretzky00.html


David Touretzky led a massive effort by hackers and other Internet
anarchists to republish the code intended to prevent copying of the
contents of DVDs.


That's the best those retards can come up with?

You *do* know that copying DVD's is *fair use* and that their
"protection" is an impediment to that, right?

And what do you have against "hackers"? Do you really have to be *that
jealous* of people who have more computer skills than yourself?

And I thought Scientology teaches you *not* to have such kneejerk reactions.

- NRen2k5


Hacking is a felony, you fool.


Isn't it pathetic when you have to spell it out for them??

Cas

"Jail for Ulf! Jail for Ulf!" Has a nice ring to it, hasn't it? For those in a
hurry, the short form for this project is "JULF".
- Barbara Schwarz



~~~~
Victoria ("Tory" "Magoo") Christman: "F*ck you!"
(She was found in contempt of court for refusing to give up her
harassment.) She disconnected from husband and son. Just ran out of
them.
~~~~
"I thought I was an alien myself. So I am in fact a space alien invader
disguised as psychiatrist plotting and conspiring all day long." --
Senior psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam
"ECT (Electro Convulsive Therapy), one of the best validated medical
treatment in the history of medicine." -- Senior psychiatrist Ulf
Brettstam
And now dig this: http://www.ect.org/effects.shtml
~~~~
Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell, from Houston, Texas, is a documented
hate monger, liar and spammer:
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/barwell.htm
He is member of the weird and money oriented SubGenius cult but
hypocritically attacks and defames Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
Barwell signed his postings as "pope", and his mental state is
questioned by others. Barwell wrote he loves cats in white wine sauce,
drinks beer, rum and loves skunks.
~~~~
French hate monger Roger Gonnet: "I am a patented criminal, I got every
vices, and I have as single fixed idea and only obsession humanity's
death, (me living, everyone else dead). I am preaching satan and
hells... I am a monarchist-royalist as well as a Stalinist-Hitlerian
strong follower; I hate every people."
~~~~


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Old March 17th 06, 10:28 AM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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Caswell wrote:OT III End Phenomenon

.....

OT III

OPERATING THETAN

Section Three

.....

The real End Phenomena of OT III and OT IV is exterior with
full perception. You can and should accomplish full stable
exteriorization on doing the materials of III.

.....
OT III - ENDPOINTS

OT III

OPERATING THETAN

Section Three

.....


It does not matter whether or not you ran
Incident I and II on self. The End Phenomena
of III is getting rid of all body thetans.
This does not necessarily include self. if
you overrun Ill it will be by trying to get
rid of more body thetans than there were or
by then, having gotten rid of the others,
starting In on self. So Ill is complete
for purposes of overrun as above. If you
have not done Incident I and II on self
when above is achieved, attest completion
and then do I and II on self.

.....

--

So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!

Cheerful Charlie

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Old March 17th 06, 06:02 PM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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Steve,

In message chiSf.4256$Vb.3613@trndny01 on Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:39:04
GMT, "Steve Foley" wrote:


This is a question, not an argument.

I thought I heard that at some point, 'they' (whoever they are) managed to
get a law passed making it illegal to copy DVDs.

Was I misinformed? (likely)
Did I hallucinate it? (also likely)
or
Was this imaginary law repealed?


First of all, I'm not a lawyer. My information is only based on
publical sources research into this subject.

The United States Code section on Copyrights allows "Fair Use".

That's the law.

Copies of audio and video tapes for personal use were ruled
to fall under Fair Use by the Copyright Office decades ago.

CD's and DvD's are not functionally different from tapes,
but the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)
and Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) have long
been campaigning to get the Copyright Office to declare
personal use copies of these infringements of their copyrights.

RIAA and MPAA are your "they" here, whom have so far failed
and have instead resorted to trying to buy a new law changing
the Copyright Act to forbid personal use copying. Each attempt
made so far has been by the slimey tactic of getting this provision
added to a totally unrelated bill and hoping nobody would notice
before it got passed into law.

So far "they" have failed, AFAIK.

I strongly urge everyone to monitor the Electronic Frontier Foundation
(EFF) website (http://www.eff.org) , wherein Action Alerts on this
issues are posted from time to time, along with extensive
plain-english explanations of the laws being applied to online
communications.

EFF majorly defends Freedom of Speech on the Internet and
greatly deserves your support.

Jay Random User


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Old March 17th 06, 06:15 PM posted to alt.religion.scientology,comp.ai.neural-nets,bionet.neuroscience,rec.aviation.marketplace
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jay random user wrote:
Steve,

In message chiSf.4256$Vb.3613@trndny01 on Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:39:04
GMT, "Steve Foley" wrote:


This is a question, not an argument.

I thought I heard that at some point, 'they' (whoever they are) managed to
get a law passed making it illegal to copy DVDs.

Was I misinformed? (likely)
Did I hallucinate it? (also likely)
or
Was this imaginary law repealed?


First of all, I'm not a lawyer. My information is only based on
publical sources research into this subject.

The United States Code section on Copyrights allows "Fair Use".

That's the law.


DMCA is also the law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA

The whole point is that David is obviously not violating the DMCA or
else CMU would have been forced to remove the various forms of DeCSS
that appear on his web pages.

I can't speak for Dave, but I would guess that he feels the DMCA might
not be Constitutional. I know I believe it is.

It is the equivelent of making it illegal for me to tell somehow how to
remove (or unlock) a lock that is on a door to their own house. I
believe that our constitution allows me to always provide information
that explains a process like this. If people use information to do
illegal things, then you should punish those people. You don't try to
punish the people that provide the information itself. Information can
be used for both good and bad.

And supporting hackers is something that Google and Microsoft also
engage in regularly. Hacking itself isn't bad either. Hacker doesn't
mean "bad person".

Some hackers are bad and some are good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker

--
Simkatu

 




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