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Old September 11th 18, 09:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 2:30:10 PM UTC-4, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Flying solo, sucks for your family and friends, but you may be happy.


Spare a thought for how accidents affect the rest of the community and how many potential new pilots might decide that the sport is too dangerous and walk away.
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Old September 11th 18, 11:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I retired at 58 or 59, but I'm still flying at 70.Â* No end in sight.

On 9/11/2018 10:27 AM, gkemp wrote:
On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:33:04 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:15:10 AM UTC-7, pete purdie wrote:
The problem is that incapacitating events are only loosely correlated with
age.


My friend started asking me to be a safety pilot in his Mooney when he reached his mid 80s. After one flight, he said he would be away the following week. "I'm going skiing" he explained.

I flew for almost 40 years and always had said I would retire at 70, I did!! I do miss it but don't regret it.

Gary Kemp "NK"


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Old September 11th 18, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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OK, yes, a death or injury is a death or injury.
Offing passengers is a lot larger.
Keeping injuries or deaths in Soaring is even better.

I will not argue with either.
But, I will say, sorta like, "I want to off myself" vs. "I want to off myself and a theater along with me".
I don't find either good, but one is less good than the other.

So, flying with a health issue may be bad (sorta depends on if known or not) by yourself or with a passenger or two are different things.
Keep in mind (last I looked) the US has for glider (and others), "no known issues that preclude me from piloting ((fill in the blank).
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Old September 12th 18, 12:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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As pointed out - an accident impacts the whole sport, family, friends, the line kid who launched you, first responders, local general aviation, the airport and the community in general. It effects insurance rates, perception of risk among potential pilots and passengers.

I will always have in my mind the tragedies I've witnessed or have been involved with as either an investigator, witness or the person who has had to deal with the outcome in one way or another.

No one "flies alone".

Regards, Tom
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Old September 12th 18, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 9:27:28 AM UTC-7, gkemp wrote:
On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:33:04 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:15:10 AM UTC-7, pete purdie wrote:
The problem is that incapacitating events are only loosely correlated with
age.



My friend started asking me to be a safety pilot in his Mooney when he reached his mid 80s. After one flight, he said he would be away the following week. "I'm going skiing" he explained.


I flew for almost 40 years and always had said I would retire at 70, I did!! I do miss it but don't regret it.

Gary Kemp "NK"


Age is clearly a general indicator, but a very imprecise one. I'd say that good health, which we all recognize, or can be measured by a medical certificate, is enough to carry on flying, both solo and with passengers, no matter what the age.
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Old September 12th 18, 08:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Absolutely agree about age, but I have to disagree that a medical certificate is a guarantee of good health, since underlying conditions may be hidden or unknown. I point to the incidence of commercial airline pilots who die on the job - not high, but not zero either.

Mike
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Old September 12th 18, 09:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Please; age is a demographic, not a symptom or disease. People talk about slowed reflexes. In the older population, what do you mean; slower conduction velocity? Molasses in the neuromuscular junction that retards chemical transmission? Take 15 minutes to do a Google search before you turn me into Soylent paste. There's great truth in the phrase, "use it or lose it".

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Old September 12th 18, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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sorry bub, you get rejected at the cream machine and get fed to the fish.
R
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Old September 12th 18, 11:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, 13 September 2018 07:43:57 UTC+10, Retting wrote:
sorry bub, you get rejected at the cream machine and get fed to the fish.
R


"No pleasures in life are worth foregoing for another 5 years in the geriatric ward" - Horace Rumpole from the British TV series "Rumpole of the Bailey"

The socialists here can go hang. The chance of hurting anyone else on the ground in a glider are minimal. The first responders will have attended hundreds, if not thousands of automobile accidents for every glider pilot accident. Not even a statistical blip.

In the last twelve months 7 Australian glider pilots died in aviation accidents (one in a homebuilt RV-6). I knew quite well all but two of them. All but two were over 70. Sad but not tragic in all but one case. Nobody on the ground was hurt and zero property damage.

The tragic case was a 62 year old instructor with a 60 year old student who suddenly dived in to the ground from 50 feet on a normal approach, witnesses by the instructor's wife who had just launched the flight. Weather was fine, glider had nothing wrong with it. The instructor was known to me and was IMO one of the most thoughtful, flight safety conscious, people I knew.

This sport is DANGEROUS, more so than general aviation as a whole. New entrants should be carefully briefed on this and if they decide it is not for them, so be it. As Bruno Gantenbrink said 25 years ago, you should think carefully about the risks and decide if the risks are worth the rewards. It is a PERSONAL decision and risk.

I have noted elsewhere that the Australian government doesn't deny passports to people who want to go to Nepal to climb Mt Everest, where you have an excellent chnace of killing yourself. They don't even bother to bring abck the bodies, the mountain is littered with frozen corpsicles.


 




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