IDF-Apache firing missiles on 67yr old civilian in wheelchair- at Sabra mosque in Gaza...

They lost their freedom, their country is occupied, most of them are
living in refuge camps in pore condition,

... because 50 years ago they backed the wrong side in an insane attempt
to drive the Israelis into the sea. And, every time they've been given the
chance, they've backed that losing side again.

And, they've lost a little more each time.

You'd think by now they'd have figured out what they're doing wrong.


They do not seem to have much of a problem with Jordan occupying "Palestine"


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

LawsonE wrote:

So you won't to say that for middle-class Palestinians their country is

not

occupied and they are not living under Israeli repression?

Parsing this abuse of the English language, I can get that you think the
Palestinians had a "country". You might want to check your history. You
might want to look at the plight of Arabs who live in Israel and who have
not sworn to kill al of the Jews. They have greater freedom to practice
their religion in the way they choose, greater security, political

freedom,

and in virtually every manner a better life with more freedom than those

in

any Arab state or that the Palestinians would have had if Israel had never
existed.


Can they marry someone from the West Bank and not have problems with the
Israeli Government?

Well, no more so than (for instance) an East Berliner who married a
West Berliner anytime between about 1945 and 1990, or for that matter
anyone who marries someone across what amounts to a fortified border
with a less than friendly neighboring country.

To be honest, I don't believe there are any restrictions on marriage.
As far as actually getting to live with the new spouse, that might well
be a problem, but again, no more so than someone marrying a non-resident
alien in many countries.

Mike

"Nicky" wrote in
:




They lost their freedom, their country is occupied,

Since when is it "their" country? ISTR that the Jews lived there many
years,perhaps centuries before the Arabs moved in. The AL-Aqsa mosque is
built on Jewish Temple remains.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

362436 (Ron) wrote in
:

They lost their freedom, their country is occupied, most of them are
living in refuge camps in pore condition,

... because 50 years ago they backed the wrong side in an insane
attempt to drive the Israelis into the sea. And, every time they've
been given the chance, they've backed that losing side again.

And, they've lost a little more each time.

You'd think by now they'd have figured out what they're doing wrong.


They do not seem to have much of a problem with Jordan occupying
"Palestine"


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)



Yes,their "brother Arabs" treat them worse than the Israelis do,in other
Arab countries.Israel is the only ME country to have Palestinians IN their
government;representatives in the Knesset.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

They do not seem to have much of a problem with Jordan occupying
"Palestine"


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)



Yes,their "brother Arabs" treat them worse than the Israelis do,in other
Arab countries.Israel is the only ME country to have Palestinians IN their
government;representatives in the Knesset.


The other Arab countries really do nothing for the palestinians except
encourage them to go after Israel, and the effect is that the Palestianians end
up being proxy soldiers of the arab counties against Israel. The original UN
mandate included a nice portion of Jordan, but when is the last time that has
been brought by palestinians.

Saudis look down on Palestianians as uneducated rock throwers, and really do
nothing to actually help them. They are quite content to see strife there, and
the palestinians living in squalor and dying, as long as Israeli is under
attack.


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:18:29 -0500, Yeff wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:03:36 GMT, Charles Gray wrote:

I'm more interested in the big middle finger this seems to have sent
the US way-- Sharon really seems intent on proving that he is not
beholden in any way shape or form to U.S. preassure

Here's another view on what this killing is all about:
http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2004/03/AngeringthePalestinians.shtml

In summary, wall off the insurgents, kill off the leaders, let them fight
and murder themselves as each group tries to establish authority.

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

The same genocide that the Moslems want to impose.

If you can't see the difference, I would suggest that you are ... well
stupid.


Al Minyard

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:48:05 GMT, "William Wright" wrote:


"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:18:29 -0500, Yeff wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:03:36 GMT, Charles Gray wrote:

I'm more interested in the big middle finger this seems to have sent
the US way-- Sharon really seems intent on proving that he is not
beholden in any way shape or form to U.S. preassure

Here's another view on what this killing is all about:
http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2004/03/AngeringthePalestinians.shtml

In summary, wall off the insurgents, kill off the leaders, let them fight
and murder themselves as each group tries to establish authority.

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

The same genocide that the Moslems want to impose.

If you can't see the difference, I would suggest that you are ... well
stupid.


Al Minyard

So killing innocent Arabs is fine?? You say "kill off the leaders",
of course a lot of "collateral damage" will occur, but hey, they
are just Arabs, so who cares how many are killed??

Al Minyard

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:48:05 GMT, "William Wright"
wrote:


"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:18:29 -0500, Yeff wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:03:36 GMT, Charles Gray wrote:

I'm more interested in the big middle finger this seems to have
sent
the US way-- Sharon really seems intent on proving that he is not
beholden in any way shape or form to U.S. preassure

Here's another view on what this killing is all about:

http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2004/03/AngeringthePalestinians.shtml

In summary, wall off the insurgents, kill off the leaders, let them
fight
and murder themselves as each group tries to establish authority.

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

The same genocide that the Moslems want to impose.

If you can't see the difference, I would suggest that you are ... well
stupid.


Al Minyard

So killing innocent Arabs is fine?? You say "kill off the leaders",
of course a lot of "collateral damage" will occur, but hey, they
are just Arabs, so who cares how many are killed??

Smart people stay away from targets. Stupid people get Darwin awards in this
case delivered by PGM. Why do troops in areas with snipers not salute their
officers?

The Palestinians could make peace, they don't want to. The blood of every
Palestinian killed, every Israeli killed, is on the hands of the
Palestinians. It is impossible for Israel to make peace with a foe that
refuses drop "destroy Israel" as a war demand. Only the Palestinians can
make peace. Until then, Israel should kill as many of these assholes as it
takes until they want peace. If the Palestinians laid down their arms today,
Israel would have no justification for not making peace. The Palestinians
would have the moral high ground. But they know they would have to admit
they lost the war and accept Israel with no right of return. Maybe if the
rest of the world would stop propping up those murderous Palestinians, this
would end.

I refused to care more about Palestinians than they care about themselves. I
stopped caring about them back in the 70s when the first 747 to be destroyed
was blown up by Palestinian hijackers (1970) then the Munich atrocity (1972)
then another brand new 747 (1973) and on and on. After seeing the news
footage of them dancing in the streets on 9-11, to hell with them. Kill them
and take their land until they want peace.



Al Minyard

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 15:36:15 GMT, "William Wright" wrote:


"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:48:05 GMT, "William Wright"
wrote:


"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:18:29 -0500, Yeff wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:03:36 GMT, Charles Gray wrote:

I'm more interested in the big middle finger this seems to have
sent
the US way-- Sharon really seems intent on proving that he is not
beholden in any way shape or form to U.S. preassure

Here's another view on what this killing is all about:

http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2004/03/AngeringthePalestinians.shtml

In summary, wall off the insurgents, kill off the leaders, let them
fight
and murder themselves as each group tries to establish authority.

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

The same genocide that the Moslems want to impose.

If you can't see the difference, I would suggest that you are ... well
stupid.


Al Minyard

So killing innocent Arabs is fine?? You say "kill off the leaders",
of course a lot of "collateral damage" will occur, but hey, they
are just Arabs, so who cares how many are killed??

Smart people stay away from targets. Stupid people get Darwin awards in this
case delivered by PGM. Why do troops in areas with snipers not salute their
officers?

The Palestinians could make peace, they don't want to. The blood of every
Palestinian killed, every Israeli killed, is on the hands of the
Palestinians. It is impossible for Israel to make peace with a foe that
refuses drop "destroy Israel" as a war demand. Only the Palestinians can
make peace. Until then, Israel should kill as many of these assholes as it
takes until they want peace. If the Palestinians laid down their arms today,
Israel would have no justification for not making peace. The Palestinians
would have the moral high ground. But they know they would have to admit
they lost the war and accept Israel with no right of return. Maybe if the
rest of the world would stop propping up those murderous Palestinians, this
would end.

I refused to care more about Palestinians than they care about themselves. I
stopped caring about them back in the 70s when the first 747 to be destroyed
was blown up by Palestinian hijackers (1970) then the Munich atrocity (1972)
then another brand new 747 (1973) and on and on. After seeing the news
footage of them dancing in the streets on 9-11, to hell with them. Kill them
and take their land until they want peace.

You really have no morals or decency. You are disgusting.

Al Minyard

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 15:36:15 GMT, "William Wright"
wrote:


"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:48:05 GMT, "William Wright"
wrote:


"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:18:29 -0500, Yeff wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:03:36 GMT, Charles Gray wrote:

I'm more interested in the big middle finger this seems to have
sent
the US way-- Sharon really seems intent on proving that he is not
beholden in any way shape or form to U.S. preassure

Here's another view on what this killing is all about:


http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2004/03/AngeringthePalestinians.shtml

In summary, wall off the insurgents, kill off the leaders, let them
fight
and murder themselves as each group tries to establish authority.

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

The same genocide that the Moslems want to impose.

If you can't see the difference, I would suggest that you are ... well
stupid.


Al Minyard

So killing innocent Arabs is fine?? You say "kill off the leaders",
of course a lot of "collateral damage" will occur, but hey, they
are just Arabs, so who cares how many are killed??

Smart people stay away from targets. Stupid people get Darwin awards in
this
case delivered by PGM. Why do troops in areas with snipers not salute
their
officers?

The Palestinians could make peace, they don't want to. The blood of every
Palestinian killed, every Israeli killed, is on the hands of the
Palestinians. It is impossible for Israel to make peace with a foe that
refuses drop "destroy Israel" as a war demand. Only the Palestinians can
make peace. Until then, Israel should kill as many of these assholes as
it
takes until they want peace. If the Palestinians laid down their arms
today,
Israel would have no justification for not making peace. The Palestinians
would have the moral high ground. But they know they would have to admit
they lost the war and accept Israel with no right of return. Maybe if the
rest of the world would stop propping up those murderous Palestinians,
this
would end.

I refused to care more about Palestinians than they care about
themselves. I
stopped caring about them back in the 70s when the first 747 to be
destroyed
was blown up by Palestinian hijackers (1970) then the Munich atrocity
(1972)
then another brand new 747 (1973) and on and on. After seeing the news
footage of them dancing in the streets on 9-11, to hell with them. Kill
them
and take their land until they want peace.

You really have no morals or decency. You are disgusting.

And you are an idiot. I was not dancing in the streets over the deaths of
others but I shed no tears for those who do. If you can't see the difference
you are an idiot plain and simple. You want perpetual war. I want peace and
I have enough brains to see who is stopping it. Who has no decency? What a
fool!


Al Minyard