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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
So you say the Mexican border is no big deal?
The new al-Qaida field commander in Afghanistan is calling for Muslims to leave the U.S. – particularly Washington and New York – in anticipation of a major terror attack to rival Sept. 11, according to an interview by a Pakistani journalist. Abu Dawood told Hamid Mir, a reporter who has covered al-Qaida and met with Osama bin Laden, the attack is being coordinated by Adnan el-Shukrijumah and suggests it may involve some form of weapon of mass destruction smuggled across the Mexican border. "Our brothers are ready to attack inside America. We will breach their security again," he is quoted as saying. "There is no timeframe for our attack inside America; we can do it any time." As WND has previously reported, el-Shukrijumah is a trained nuclear technician and accomplished pilot who has been singled out by bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri to serve as the field commander for the next terrorist attack on U.S. soil. The terrorist was last seen in Mexico, where, on Nov. 1, 2004, he allegedly hijacked a Piper PA Pawnee cropduster from Ejido Queretaro near Mexicali to transport a nuclear weapon and nuclear equipment into the U.S., according to Paul Williams, a former FBI consultant and author of "The Dunces of Doomsday." |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
It would be hard to believe the terrorist would be dumb enough to go to
Mexico. I might actually feel sorry for them if they did. The Mexican gov't isn't going to toss them in prison and give then 4 squares a day. They'll be just like the prisoners in Gitmo, begging to be kept under U.S. control. -Robert ElmerFudd wrote: The terrorist was last seen in Mexico, where, on Nov. 1, 2004, he allegedly hijacked a Piper PA Pawnee cropduster from Ejido Queretaro near Mexicali to transport a nuclear weapon and nuclear equipment into the U.S., according to Paul Williams, a former FBI consultant and author of "The Dunces of Doomsday." |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
Mexico is almost as corrupt as Pakistan. What are the chances terrorists
operating in Mexico would even come to the attention of Mexican authorities? If they did become known to Mexican police, for example, pretty darn likely the terrorists could make a charitable donation to the policeman's retirement fund and come north to kill gringos as if nothing happened. There are reasons why Muslim terrorists would likely come over the northern border but coming over the Mexican border seems as difficult as falling out of bed. -- Scott |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
tscottme wrote: Mexico is almost as corrupt as Pakistan. What are the chances terrorists operating in Mexico would even come to the attention of Mexican authorities? If they did become known to Mexican police, for example, pretty darn likely the terrorists could make a charitable donation to the policeman's retirement fund and come north to kill gringos as if nothing happened. There are reasons why Muslim terrorists would likely come over the northern border but coming over the Mexican border seems as difficult as falling out of bed. First, coming to Mexico is not anywhere as easy as coming to the U.S. (with the exception of U.S. citizens). Mexico has VERY strict immigration laws and getting residency is a difficult process. Second, although there is some corruption in the area of traffic fines and even some corporate legal issues, they don't screw around with non/Mexicans. They consider it offensive for someone to come to their country and cause problems. I hope the terrorist like easting fish heads in a Mexican prison vs. getting Filet O'Fish in Gitmo. Mexicans have a lot of national and ethnic pride and aren't too excited about people coming into their country to cause problems. Third, Mexicans are catholic no if-ands-or-buts about it. Muslims living in Mexico would stand out like a soar thumb. -Robert, frequent flying visitor to the beautiful country of Mexico |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message ups.com... tscottme wrote: Mexico is almost as corrupt as Pakistan. What are the chances terrorists operating in Mexico would even come to the attention of Mexican authorities? If they did become known to Mexican police, for example, pretty darn likely the terrorists could make a charitable donation to the policeman's retirement fund and come north to kill gringos as if nothing happened. There are reasons why Muslim terrorists would likely come over the northern border but coming over the Mexican border seems as difficult as falling out of bed. First, coming to Mexico is not anywhere as easy as coming to the U.S. (with the exception of U.S. citizens). Mexico has VERY strict immigration laws and getting residency is a difficult process. And you don't think that a well-funded, well-organized terrorist organization could forge papers? Second, although there is some corruption in the area of traffic fines and even some corporate legal issues, they don't screw around with non/Mexicans. They consider it offensive for someone to come to their country and cause problems. I hope the terrorist like easting fish heads in a Mexican prison vs. getting Filet O'Fish in Gitmo. No, they consider it offensive if you don't grease their palms. Remember, this is the country that wanted $500 USD just to drive into TJ from San Diego or into Nogales, SON from Nogales, AZ but of course el winko, el winko you'll get your money back when you leave Mexico... Yeah, Right... Mexicans have a lot of national and ethnic pride and aren't too excited about people coming into their country to cause problems. Horse ****. If this were true, they'd stay home and fix there own problems instead of invading the US. Third, Mexicans are catholic no if-ands-or-buts about it. Muslims living in Mexico would stand out like a soar thumb. Um, ok, what, exactly, does a Muslim look like? Even if you're naive enough to think that they all look like the Taliban, ever hear of this little thing called a razor? Actually, a Saudi or Yemeni without a beard wearing jeans, a plaid shirt, cowboy boots and a white, straw cowboy hat is going to look a lot like many of the Mexican day laborers I see here in the Phoenix area. Behind closed doors, you could have thousands of people in Mexico facing Mecca five times a day and you'd never know it. Get real. -Robert, frequent flying visitor to the beautiful country of Mexico You must be doing your IFR training down there because, IMO, you are seriously wearing blinders. Jay Beckman PP-ASEL Chandler, AZ |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com... tscottme wrote: Mexico is almost as corrupt as Pakistan. What are the chances terrorists operating in Mexico would even come to the attention of Mexican authorities? If they did become known to Mexican police, for example, pretty darn likely the terrorists could make a charitable donation to the policeman's retirement fund and come north to kill gringos as if nothing happened. There are reasons why Muslim terrorists would likely come over the northern border but coming over the Mexican border seems as difficult as falling out of bed. First, coming to Mexico is not anywhere as easy as coming to the U.S. (with the exception of U.S. citizens). Mexico has VERY strict immigration laws and getting residency is a difficult process. Second, although there is some corruption in the area of traffic fines and even some corporate legal issues, they don't screw around with non/Mexicans. They consider it offensive for someone to come to their country and cause problems. I hope the terrorist like easting fish heads in a Mexican prison vs. getting Filet O'Fish in Gitmo. Mexicans have a lot of national and ethnic pride and aren't too excited about people coming into their country to cause problems. Third, Mexicans are catholic no if-ands-or-buts about it. Muslims living in Mexico would stand out like a soar thumb. -Robert, frequent flying visitor to the beautiful country of Mexico Just google "OTM" or other than Mexican. There is plenty of evidence of non-Mexicans already operating in Mexico and crossing the border with the US. Yes Mexico seems to take their southern border more seriously than the US takes its border, but even their southern border is not airtight. Relatively poor people from a wide range of Central and South American countries do penetrate the Mexican border. Just because the Mexican government doesn't hand out welfare and accomodate illegal aliens as easily as the US does doesn't speak to the difficilty of entering Mexico. It's laughable to put faith in Mexico's system of legal immigration as reason to doubt terrorists will immigrate to Mexico in preparation for a move into the US. People that are planning to kill a million Americans, if they can, aren't above ignoring Mexican immigration law. It's also darn difficult to obtain legal US permission to permanently live in the US as a new citizen or perament resident, that's why multitudes ignore the legal method and favor the illegal method. Tell me how do the Central and Southern Americans we capture within eyesight of the Mexico/US border cross that border, do they use Star Trek teleportation or do they transit Mexico. Each OTM captured near the southern border of the US is airtight proof of my point and against your argument. Still, I believe the bigger threat is from the border with Canada. There is a much, much larger immigrant population. and Canadians visitors aren't suspected like Mexico visitors. -- Scott Muslims Prove Papal Infallibility -- Alan W. Dowd http://tinyurl.com/hd6ns |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
Jay Beckman wrote: "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message And you don't think that a well-funded, well-organized terrorist organization could forge papers? If they were smart they would come to the U.S. Its much easier to get in and they'd have more like minded people. Plus, if they got caught, no one would kiss there ass as much as American prisons. Gitmo is quite a nice tropical getaway. No, they consider it offensive if you don't grease their palms. Remember, this is the country that wanted $500 USD just to drive into TJ from San Diego or into Nogales, SON from Nogales, AZ but of course el winko, el winko you'll get your money back when you leave Mexico... Not sure where you get your information. Haven't seen that. Lots of great rumors though out there about Mexico. Kinda like UFO stories. Mexicans have a lot of national and ethnic pride and aren't too excited about people coming into their country to cause problems. Horse ****. If this were true, they'd stay home and fix there own problems instead of invading the US. What percentage of Mexicans do you really think are in the U.S.? Would you be surprised to learn that the majority choose to stay in Mexico? You seem to claim to know quite a bit about Mexico. How frequently do you go? |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
BTW: When I was clearing back through U.S. customs coming back from
Canada in my Mooney the agent told me the U.S. is far more concerned about Canada than Mexico. Anyone can get into Canada. Mexico has tight borders, Canada has a welcome mat. -Robert |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
But Mexican borders aren't tight enough, as tight as they may be.
http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.asp...Type=Printable June 2005 The number of Other than Mexican or OTM apprehensions is up more than 30% from this time last year, and that's causing logistical and financial problems for the U.S. Government. Border Patrol agents in the Tucson Sector have caught roughly 376,000 illegal entrants since last October 1st, which is the start of the 2005 fiscal year. About 9,400 of them are from countries other than Mexico. "Out of the 9,400, approximately 8,000 have been from Central American countries," says Border Patrol Agent Jose Garza. -- Scott Muslims Prove Papal Infallibility -- Alan W. Dowd http://tinyurl.com/hd6ns "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... BTW: When I was clearing back through U.S. customs coming back from Canada in my Mooney the agent told me the U.S. is far more concerned about Canada than Mexico. Anyone can get into Canada. Mexico has tight borders, Canada has a welcome mat. -Robert |
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Piper hijacked in Mexico. Reason? Nuke Smuggling
Robert M. Gary wrote:
What percentage of Mexicans do you really think are in the U.S.? Would you be surprised to learn that the majority choose to stay in Mexico? You seem to claim to know quite a bit about Mexico. How frequently do you go? I don't know a lot about Mexico, but I know a lot about the importation of poverty to Southen California, principally from Mexico. I also know the Los Angeles Times (a liberal supporter of illegal immigation in general) has twice published a survey that 70% of the (remaining) citizens of Mexico would immigrate to the United States, legally or illegally if they thought they could get work (keep in mind this includes skilled and educated Mexicans, unlike the genrally very poorly educated folks who have come across to date (some 12 million of them, at least). I am tired of my area hospital rooms being loaded up will illegals using the ER as their free family doctor. This has resulted in the closing of quite a few ERs throughout Southern Califorina; to the extent that your life is now at risk if you get in bad auto crash in many parts of the area because of lack of nearby ERs. And, distant ERs have been known to turn away serious injuries because they are overwhelmed on occasion. Mexico has a very corrupt govenment at most levels. How do I know this with certainty. The LA Tines does a lot of coverage on it. A very good friend of mine, a 35 year old Mexican immigrant when she was 18 keeps reminding me about how bad it is for most people down there. She is a very nice, very smart, very credible person. She, and five siblings were illegals but granted ammentsy by Reagan, |
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