metric system newsgroup call for votes #1

"Goran Larsson" wrote in message
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Marcus Andersson wrote:

All Gripens can use either metres or feet for altitude and km/h or
knots for airspeed. Just push a button to select.

That feature is not available in all software editions, and the
backup instruments in 39A and 39B can only show proper SI units.

Oxymoron.

"Dave Kearton" wrote in
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Dave Kearton" wrote in
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snip of gord bragging about his dick
Still impressive - unless you're talking about pitot tubes ......

Do you even know what a pitot tube is, little freak?

I don't think we need to hear what you think of Gord's crank.




A bit sensitive John ....

I intended it to be funny, you should relax.

"Emmanuel Gustin" wrote in message
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"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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Yes, but are your *absolutely* sure that all "Western aircraft use
English units"?

For altitude and airspeed, they do. I'm absolutely sure. ICAO says
so.

As far as I know, that is not true. The preferred ICAO units
are SI, but it allows countries to choose a set of non-SI units.
The FAA requires 'English' units for speed and altitude.

Dude, nautical miles are a measurment system based on the Earth; as such
English units are units consistent with lattitude and longitude.

As the "Metric Conversion Act of 1975" requires US
government agencies to use SI units (with a huge loophole
stating that conversion does not have to been done where
it is impractical) and for all government procurement, this
position of the FAA is something of an anomaly, but of
course the transition would be very difficult...

Carter's little bull**** got flushed by House Government Oversite and Reform
in 1996. (Klinger Chair)

"Dave Kearton" wrote:

...if it were anybody else, I'd put it down to pitot envy.


"Pitot envy". Good one Dave.. (just cracks me up...)




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-Gord.

(Marcus Andersson) wrote:

(Goran Larsson) wrote in message ...
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Mary Shafer wrote:

For altitude and airspeed, they do. I'm absolutely sure. ICAO says
so.

The Swedish airforce use meter for altitude and km/h for airspeed.

All Gripens can use either metres or feet for altitude and km/h or
knots for airspeed. Just push a button to select.
Some of the Viggens have gotten new instruments so they can do the
same.

I'm positively sure that the Swedish air force will switch to imperial
units in the near future. No point in using one system wthin Sweden
and another system when abroad.

Good move imo...although I'm from a country that espouses metric
(and in most cases I like it) I think that for this one parameter
(altitude) we should all be on the same page. Just too damned
dangerous to be otherwise. (IMO).
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-Gord.

"Emmanuel Gustin" wrote:

"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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Yes, but are your *absolutely* sure that all "Western aircraft use
English units"?

For altitude and airspeed, they do. I'm absolutely sure. ICAO says
so.

As far as I know, that is not true. The preferred ICAO units
are SI, but it allows countries to choose a set of non-SI units.
The FAA requires 'English' units for speed and altitude.


Keep in mind that some time ago Mary also asserted in no
uncertain terms that both the FAA and the NSTB did not use Pilot
Error as a reason for any aircraft accident.

Incidentally, Tony Kern has a new book out. Here's my order
confirmation:

Shipping estimate for these items: November 3, 2003 1
"Controlling Pilot Error: Culture, Environment, and CRM (Crew
Resource Management)"
Tony Kern;Paperback; $11.00

He's a terrific writer, his article (now a book apparently) known
as "Darker Shades of Blue" was a great read about the B-52 prang
at Fairchild AFB a few years ago.



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-Gord.

Robert Briggs wrote:

Tarver Engineering wrote:
John Mullen wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:
Paul Hirose wrote:

There's a vote going now on creating a newsgroup about the
metric system:

The metric system is off topic for aviation newsgroups.

Far from it.

Russians use metric units and Western aircraft use English units,
the two safety records speak for themselves.

That's an interesting notion in view of the origin of the term
"Gimli Glider" ...

....and the 'Mars lander' was it?...
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-Gord.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:58:24 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:

And since nautical miles are a measurement system based on the earth, they
work out real well for navigation.

That might have been true at one time but the Imperial system is now
entirely defined in terms of Metric units.

E.g. One inch is exactly 2.54 mm, etc.

This was changed over in 1958, previously the inch being 25.40000508
mm.

Similarly the nautical mile is now defined as exactly 1852 m.
Previous to the switchover it was 1853.184 m.

:-P

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Robb McLeod )
A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops.
On my desk I have a work station...

"Robb McLeod" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:58:24 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:

And since nautical miles are a measurement system based on the earth,
they
work out real well for navigation.

That might have been true at one time but the Imperial system is now
entirely defined in terms of Metric units.

I fear you miss the entire point, nautical miles agree with latitude and
longitude.

snip of irrelevence

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:52:32 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Robb McLeod" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:58:24 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:

And since nautical miles are a measurement system based on the earth,
they
work out real well for navigation.

That might have been true at one time but the Imperial system is now
entirely defined in terms of Metric units.

I fear you miss the entire point, nautical miles agree with latitude and
longitude.

snip of irrelevence

But the Earth isn't perfect sphere, nor is an arc minute the same in
a plane as a submarine. The natical mile was standardized to metric
because it was inconsistant depending on where you stood on the globe.

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Robb McLeod )
A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops.
On my desk I have a work station...