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  #11  
Old March 17th 09, 03:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bob Fry
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"vd" == veeduber writes:

vd Do this instead:

vd you put the bomb into your forge, bury it
vd in coke or charcoal, and blow-up a good blaze. Don't rush;
vd take your time. You want the bomb to reach a BRIGHT YELLOW
vd heat....

vd Use your tongs to pull the bomb out of the coals, and another
vd set of tongs to unscrew one end. Do this right on the edge of
vd the forge and right ABOVE a bucket full of old motor oil. Now
vd tip the contents of the bomb into the bucket.

vd The bucket is going to catch fire. Don't worry about it....

vd Collect all of the blades in a shallow pan and cover them with
vd an eighth of an inch of motor oil. Now set the oil on fire.
vd Allow the fire to burn out. It's going to be smokey as hell
vd so you want to do this outside of your shop. When the fire
vd goes out, tip the blades out of the shallow pan onto a piece
vd of iron and allow them to cool.

I'll give this a go in my 2-car suburban attached garage...a good test
of the local fire dept, get the lads out of the station house playing
jokes on each other.

Really tho, great fun reading about the old-timey ways. Guess I'll
continue to pay the $10 at my local Ace HW & Aviation Supply...

--
Nothing overshadows truth so much as authority.
~ Leon Battista Alberti
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Old March 17th 09, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
RST Engineering
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Ever run across a CPO Hal Mitchell at either San Diego or Yokosuka? His
forte was cryptology and was my father in law. Retired to Paradise Hills
(National CIty) and passed away about fifteen years ago.

Jim


Off & on, I spent a total of seven years in Japan, not always
stationed ashore, but I pulled two fairly long hitches, both at HSA
Yokosuka.


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Old March 18th 09, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
pintlar
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I take it you screw the second cap on 'very loosely' to prevent an explosion
in the forge.
**********************************************
wrote in message
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To All:

Often times we have the need to create small but accurate shapes in
metal or wood. When the 'part' happens to be in two dimensions
rather than three, such as a stencil (!) or an airfoil template, a
common method of making the part is to simply print it out then glue
the print-out to a piece of shim-stock and simply cut it out. The
usual tool for cutting out such parts is an X-ACTO Knife which comes
to a point (ie, the #11 X-acto Knife blade). But if you find the
cupboard is bare and elect to order the part via telephone, you are in
for a serious shock, which goes something like this:

X-ACTO item# TCL X411, Classic Fine-point Blade, 15ea, X-ACTO#11,
$5.99
Shipping
$6.95

CA Tax $1.06

TOTAL $14.00
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's $0.93 PER BLADE.

Do this instead:

Find yourself some STEEL STRAPPING. Use your snips -- Dutchman or
regular tinner's snips -- to make ONE cut at a shallow angle, then go
about 2-1/2" down the strap and make ANOTHER cut... but at the
OPPOSITE angle. Go over to your BENCH GRINDER, the one fitted with a
pair of FINE stones, and SHARPEN the angles you've just created. Be
careful sharpening the OPPOSITE angle. With both angles ROUGHLY
sharpened, do whatever it is YOU do to FINISH the sharpening... but
only go through HALF of your finish-sharpening procedue. That is, you
want to leave the edges NOT QUITE FINISHED. Now cut the pieces
exactly in the MIDDLE and you've got TWO pieces that look kinda like a
#11 blade.

You might as well make up a dozen or so PAIRS.

If you do any metal work at all you probably have used a 'bomb' to
convert MILD steel into High Carbon steel. The 'bomb' is nothing more
than a NIPPLE of black iron pipe with a pipe CAP on either end. For
little blades like this... or little screws or whatever... your 'bomb'
is probably about three inches long.

Chuck the 'bomb' into your bench vise and pour about an inch of
CHARCOAL into the thing. Now pack the BLADES into the charcoal. Heap
it up. Then pack charcoal into the pipe cap and screw it on. Hand-
tight is fine.

I've found the best charcoal for this is made from old LEATHER. Other
common gunsmithing charcoals are made from BONE and so forth. And
don''t laugh at any of this. What's happening is that the different
charcoals contain TRACE ELEMENTS which makes them more suitable for
springs; for hammer faces, for frizzens, fasteners and so forth.

The TRACE ELEMENTS, along with the CARBON is infused into your MILD
STEEL part when you put the bomb into your forge, bury it in coke or
charcoal, and blow-up a good blaze. Don't rush; take your time. You
want the bomb to reach a BRIGHT YELLOW heat.

Once you've reached the proper temperature, you want to keep it there
for about ten minutes for a small bomb (ie, one made from 1" pipe, 3"
long. Larger (or smaller), work out the required heat by comparing
the VOLUME of the bomb divided by its radius. ( A BIG bomb is
something on the order of three inches in diameter by a foot in length
-- it'll take you a couple of HOURS to properly infuse the part(s). )

Use your tongs to pull the bomb out of the coals, and another set of
tongs to unscrew one end. Do this right on the edge of the forge and
right ABOVE a bucket full of old motor oil. Now tip the contents of
the bomb into the bucket.

The bucket is going to catch fire. Don't worry about it. Put a cover
over the bucket to smother the flames. Stir the contents of the
bucket a few times then wait until the oil is cool enough for you to
fish out the blades.

Collect all of the blades in a shallow pan and cover them with an
eighth of an inch of motor oil. Now set the oil on fire. Allow the
fire to burn out. It's going to be smokey as hell so you want to do
this outside of your shop. When the fire goes out, tip the blades out
of the shallow pan onto a piece of iron and allow them to cool.

Once the blades have cooled you may continue with your sharpening.
They should take a razor edge. If they crack, you've either left them
in the bomb too long or you've cooled them too fast. The tempering
(ie, burning-off) should not effect the cracking one way or another.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's how you make blades (or leaf-springs or what-not). To make a
HANDLE for your blade simply cut a slot in a dowel or a piece of
pruning from a hardwood tree or shrub, and affix the blade in the slot
using EPOXY. Epoxy holds the blade strong enough for most work but
for metal engraving or wood carving, you'll want a more secure joining
between the handle and the tool. You can achieve this drilling a hole
(or holes) into the blade BEFORE the hardening, and affixing the blade
with steel or brass pins.

To add a bit of class to your burrens, gravures, knives and what-not,
you can fit them with copper or brass ferules. (Looks very sexy to
have an ENGRAVED data plate instead of some Joe Sixpak array of
stamped letters & numbers.)

-R.S.Hoover



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Old March 18th 09, 06:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bob Murray
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"pintlar" wrote in message
...
I take it you screw the second cap on 'very loosely' to prevent an
explosion in the forge.

Nope! You don't want any oxygen to get in. The amount of carbon you put in
is much more than needed for both hardening and combining with any residual
oxygen in the pipe. I use a similar method for annealing. Making small
tools from allen wrenches or concrete nails, I put them in the pipe with 3
to 6 sq. inches of brown paper to get rid of residual oxygen, and put the
pipe in the fire as Bob does. After the pipe gets to temperature, let the
fire die out. When all is cool, nice non-scaled annealed steel.

Bob


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Old March 18th 09, 01:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
pintlar
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snip
Nope! You don't want any oxygen to get in. The amount of carbon you put
in is much more than needed for both hardening and combining with any
residual oxygen in the pipe. I use a similar method for annealing. Making
small tools from allen wrenches or concrete nails, I put them in the pipe
with 3 to 6 sq. inches of brown paper to get rid of residual oxygen, and
put the pipe in the fire as Bob does. After the pipe gets to temperature,
let the fire die out. When all is cool, nice non-scaled annealed steel.

Bob

*****************
Years ago ('50's) in one of the old Popular Science type mags there was
a 'readers speak'
article where a man made his own threading dies by using a hex nut with bolt
stopped flush with one
face of the nut. He then drilled his three holes, (half in the nut, half in
the bolt) removed the bolt, and now he had a 'soft' die.
He then heated that nut/die cherry red with his o/a torch and sprinkled
powdered sugar on the inside of the red hot bolt.
He said that hardened the threads of the bolt (now a die) sufficiently.


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Old March 19th 09, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bob Hoover
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On Mar 16, 1:24*pm, "Flash" wrote:

You are simply amazing. *Your directions fit right there with what all my
father attempted to teach so many years ago. *(The forge is long gone).

But the tempering process . . . is there a method less smoky and noxious?
For the faint of heart who live in an area where the neighbors are less
tolerant of *flames and smoke?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Dear Flash,

I'm sure there is. I've seen small gas-fired tempering furnaces in
several shops I've visited. A copy of Brownell's catalog (...do they
have a web site? ) should give you sources.

-Bob
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Old March 19th 09, 07:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bob Hoover
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On Mar 17, 8:15*pm, "pintlar" wrote:
I take it you screw the second cap on 'very loosely' to prevent an explosion
in the forge.

----------------------------------------------------------------

SOP was to drill a hole in the end-caps. For the box-type, the thing
fit loosely enough that a vent wasn't required.

-Bob
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Old March 19th 09, 07:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jan olieslagers[_2_]
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Bob Hoover schreef:

SOP was ....


SOP?

Shellack omnivisually painted?
Silly operators propagated?
Sundeck Only for Proprietors?
Standard operational practice?
Stupid options prerequisited?
Subject Over Pressure?
Standard operational procedures?
....???

Excuse my stupidity,
KA
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Old March 19th 09, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan[_12_]
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Bob Hoover wrote:
On Mar 16, 1:24 pm, "Flash" wrote:

You are simply amazing. Your directions fit right there with what all my
father attempted to teach so many years ago. (The forge is long gone).

But the tempering process . . . is there a method less smoky and noxious?
For the faint of heart who live in an area where the neighbors are less
tolerant of flames and smoke?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Dear Flash,

I'm sure there is. I've seen small gas-fired tempering furnaces in
several shops I've visited. A copy of Brownell's catalog (...do they
have a web site? ) should give you sources.

-Bob



You bet Brownells has a website: www.brownells.com

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 19th 09, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan[_12_]
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jan olieslagers wrote:
Bob Hoover schreef:

SOP was ....


SOP?

Shellack omnivisually painted?
Silly operators propagated?
Sundeck Only for Proprietors?
Standard operational practice?
Stupid options prerequisited?
Subject Over Pressure?
Standard operational procedures?
...???

Excuse my stupidity,
KA


Standard operating procedure.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
 




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