Families of soldiers condemn Bush's war

"oO" wrote in message
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Families of soldiers condemn Bush's war

The October 25 demonstration in Washington was particularly noteworthy for
the participation of a number of families that have been directly affected
by the deployment of their kinsmen in Iraq.

It's so refreshing to see Americans exercising their right of free speech,
should remind
all of us that the ultimate sacrifice our troops have made throughout the
years,
was not in vain.

BTW this isn't Bush's war, it's America's war, Congress did vote in support
of the invasion, lest we forget.

Mark

Mark Test wrote:
"oO" wrote in message
...

Families of soldiers condemn Bush's war

The October 25 demonstration in Washington was particularly noteworthy for
the participation of a number of families that have been directly affected
by the deployment of their kinsmen in Iraq.


It's so refreshing to see Americans exercising their right of free speech,
should remind
all of us that the ultimate sacrifice our troops have made throughout the
years,
was not in vain.

BTW this isn't Bush's war, it's America's war, Congress did vote in support
of the invasion, lest we forget.


It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised

lest we forget....

From: vincent Brannigan )
Subject: Old Europe and Law?
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Date: 2003-03-31 07:46:34 PST

Cecil Turner wrote:



The US is not attacking Iraq because it wants to "be the arbiter of good and
evil," but because its WMD programs represent an unacceptable security risk to the
US. And I'd suggest the US not only has a "right to be heard" (thanks for that,
BTW), but a right not to have biological agents dispersed on its streets.



And if they dont have WMD Bush and cheny resign in disgrace ?

Vince

Vince

From: Vince Brannigan

snip

It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised

lest we forget....


So none of the other reasons we went will count if no WMDs are found? Granted
Bush emphasized WMDs, but he also gave other reasons for going to war not the
least of which Iraq was still violating every single agreement they made since
the Gulf War. Keep in mind Clinton, the U.N. and many countries said Iraq had
WMDs.

Should we impeach all the congressmen who voted for the war?

Vince Brannigan wrote:

:It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised

Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you
frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the
only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old
enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old.

:lest we forget....

Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including
the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now
it's suddenly all Bush's fault.

Get a clue....

--
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed
and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks
that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has
nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more
important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature,
and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the
exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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Vince Brannigan wrote:

:It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised

Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you
frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the
only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old
enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old.

:lest we forget....

Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including
the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now
it's suddenly all Bush's fault.

Of course they knew he *had* them - they ****ing give them to him. the point
it - he clearly destroyed them ..

Get a clue....

We were told by the weapons inspectors he didnt have them anymore. Nobody
believed he had them outside of the US, but the only people who could really
know - the weapons experts who were actually there inspecting in Iraq
(including Mr.Blix) said there were NONE.

Despite this the UN was shown Powells laughable powerpoint demonstration
that showed a drawing of a truck that was meant to be evidence of a mobile
weapons factory...lol..****ing hell thats funny...what happened when they
invaded? The truck was being used for weather experiments. lol

Fred J. McCall wrote:
Vince Brannigan wrote:

:It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised

Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you
frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the
only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old
enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old.

:lest we forget....

Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including
the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now
it's suddenly all Bush's fault.

Get a clue....


People "believed" it because el Busho said it was so. It wasnt so.

Whjat we dont knwo yet is whether Busho was lying or delusional


Vince

B2431 wrote:
From: Vince Brannigan

snip

It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised

lest we forget....


So none of the other reasons we went will count if no WMDs are found?

You mean nuclear weapons which also turned out to be non-existent? And aluminum
tubes supposedly bought for the non-existent nuclear weapons? Or that his
people didn't love him? There are a lot more North Koreans who don't love their
leader and we're not going to war with them over that, are we?

.....Granted Bush emphasized WMDs, but he also gave other reasons for going to
war not the
least of which Iraq was still violating every single agreement they made since
the Gulf War.

Oh, breaking treaties is a reason to go to war? Like the Kyoto Accords, or the
Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, both of which we pulled out of unilaterally.

......Keep in mind Clinton, the U.N. and many countries said Iraq had
WMDs.

But they didn't go to war with him over that, did they?



Should we impeach all the congressmen who voted for the war?

Of course not....we believed all of the garbage the President fed us, so why
should be expect the people who represent us to be any smarter than we were?
They're just as dumb as we are, but being stupid is not a reason for kicking
people out of office. If we did that, we wouldn't have a congress and would be
living under a dictatorship.

George Z.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:41:39 -0500, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:

Oh, breaking treaties is a reason to go to war? Like the Kyoto Accords, or the
Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, both of which we pulled out of unilaterally.


Throwing a lot of stuff on the wall in the hope that some sticks is a
danger of political debate in modern America.

For the record, let us note that the Kyoto Accords were not ratified
by the Senate and that George Bush' decision to not continue is well
within his Constitutional authority. We might also note that the
impact on the US economy imposed by Kyoto goes well beyond what would
be reasonable to counter a "global warming" that may be considered
scientifically dubious at best.

And, the ABM withdrawal was in no way unilateral. You might review the
discussions between Bush and Putin and the agreement of the Russian
president with the rationale for withdrawal.

Keep in mind that compliance with any treaty, anywhere, at any time,
is governed by national self-interest. There's no international cop to
knock on the door of a treaty violator.

Vince:

- What about the 30 or so 55 gal drums of Lewisite?
- What about the mobile chem labs?
- What about the Rycin?
- What about the Botulinum?
- What about the anthrax cultures?
- What about the residuals at various dumping sites?

How much "evidence of WMD;" or, more to the point, "evidence of WMD
programs" is enough for you?

Steve Swartz


"Vince Brannigan" wrote in message
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
Vince Brannigan wrote:

:It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised

Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you
frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the
only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old
enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old.

:lest we forget....

Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including
the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now
it's suddenly all Bush's fault.

Get a clue....


People "believed" it because el Busho said it was so. It wasnt so.

Whjat we dont knwo yet is whether Busho was lying or delusional


Vince

"oO" wrote

We were told by the weapons inspectors he didnt have them anymore. Nobody
believed he had them outside of the US, but the only people who could
really
know - the weapons experts who were actually there inspecting in Iraq
(including Mr.Blix) said there were NONE.

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with
the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in
the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past
four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has
continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

Pete