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Old September 10th 03, 02:08 AM
Steven D. Litvintchouk
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[I'm a layperson at this, so please excuse this naive question.]

What does all that external ECM that they keep adding on to older
aircraft do to their aerodynamics? I look at a B-52 with its EVS
turrets sticking out of its nose and all those ECM antennas and other
crap sticking out of its fuselage. Or an F-111 "Wild Weasel" with that
pod high on its rudder.

What does that do to drag, handling, airspeed, etc.?

I also seem to remember that the G & H models of the B-52 had its whole
nose lengthened to accomodate a bigger radar or something (as compared
with the older B-52 models). That's in addition to putting an insert in
the tail to lengthen the tail behind the rudder. What did all those
modifications do to the B-52's aerodynamics?


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Old September 10th 03, 03:17 AM
Guy Alcala
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"Steven D. Litvintchouk" wrote:

[I'm a layperson at this, so please excuse this naive question.]

What does all that external ECM that they keep adding on to older
aircraft do to their aerodynamics? I look at a B-52 with its EVS
turrets sticking out of its nose and all those ECM antennas and other
crap sticking out of its fuselage. Or an F-111 "Wild Weasel" with that
pod high on its rudder.

What does that do to drag, handling, airspeed, etc.?


In partial answer to your question, Boyne gives the following data on the
decline of the L/D ratio:

B-52A/F: 21:1

B-52G/H (clean): 19:1

B-52G/H (12 SRAM, EVS): 17:1

B-52G/H (12 ALCM, EVS): 17.4:1 (improved pylon).

Guy

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Old September 10th 03, 11:31 AM
John Cook
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:08:11 GMT, "Steven D. Litvintchouk"
wrote:

[I'm a layperson at this, so please excuse this naive question.]

What does all that external ECM that they keep adding on to older
aircraft do to their aerodynamics? I look at a B-52 with its EVS
turrets sticking out of its nose and all those ECM antennas and other
crap sticking out of its fuselage. Or an F-111 "Wild Weasel" with that
pod high on its rudder.

What does that do to drag, handling, airspeed, etc.?

I also seem to remember that the G & H models of the B-52 had its whole
nose lengthened to accomodate a bigger radar or something (as compared
with the older B-52 models). That's in addition to putting an insert in
the tail to lengthen the tail behind the rudder. What did all those
modifications do to the B-52's aerodynamics?





The drag induced has found to be much less than that induced by a
large missile hole ;-),.

Sorry I couldn't resist
John Cook

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Old September 10th 03, 05:57 PM
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It's not really a tradeoff between ECM and aerodynamics. It's more a
tradeoff between ECM and not surviving.

WDA

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"Steven D. Litvintchouk" wrote in message
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[I'm a layperson at this, so please excuse this naive question.]

What does all that external ECM that they keep adding on to older
aircraft do to their aerodynamics? I look at a B-52 with its EVS
turrets sticking out of its nose and all those ECM antennas and other
crap sticking out of its fuselage. Or an F-111 "Wild Weasel" with that
pod high on its rudder.

What does that do to drag, handling, airspeed, etc.?

I also seem to remember that the G & H models of the B-52 had its whole
nose lengthened to accomodate a bigger radar or something (as compared
with the older B-52 models). That's in addition to putting an insert in
the tail to lengthen the tail behind the rudder. What did all those
modifications do to the B-52's aerodynamics?


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