Hello Dahli

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote:

While I think the 30NM is a little much do you understand the damage to
the
US and world economy if the President were to be killed. The stock market
drop alone would reduce world wealth by a significant amount.


Not if you wouldn't make such a hype about this person (whoever holds it)
and the office. He is replaceable, the vice-president is here to step up
behind him.

#m
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Which witch watches which Swatch watch?

Well, if you haven't noticed the economic markets pretty much are based on
hype and the worse kind of hype, as far as economic markets are concerned is
hype about uncertainty. So if a President gets whacked there is all sorts of
uncertainty. Will the VP be up to the job? Will we go to war? Will be start
throwing nukes around? Add to this that the largest perceived threat is from
folks that are in one way or another tied to the counties that produce our
primary source of energy and you have a situation that just oozes
uncertainty. So let's protect the guy in the office. It's cheaper in the
long run.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Just another day in the wonderful world of aviation...

You were held up at public airport for the *Dahli Llama*? In Arizona,
USA?

That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des
Moines!

I'm torn between laughter and incredulity.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

C'mon Jay ... Apples and Oranges,

I was not held up...and there was no official "Ground Stop."

Your experience with John Edwards was caused by the Secret Service. I was
asked politely by a beat cop if I would mind waiting five extra minutes
until the delegation was on board their plane. And, if I hadn't been
otherwise engaged with photography matters, I would have been long gone
before his convoy (all of 2 cars and two police SUVs) got to the ramp.

In fact, I taxied out right behind the G-V and could have done a lot more
damage to his plane with a spinning prop than I could have standing a couple
hundred yards away watching while he boarded.

The man is a guest in our country (in general) and in MY state in particular
.... Personally, I'd rather give the Dahli Llama five minutes than give
anyone a chance to think that Americans (in general) and GA pilots in
particular are ignorant, arrogant and uncooperative.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:15:26 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in ZqhYe.69133$7f5.61661@okepread01::

Will the VP be up to the job?

I thought Cheney had been pulling Bush's strings for the past five
years.

Or was it Rove, the Bush advisor who outed the CIA operative, and was
made a FEMA wag instead of being fired as baby Bush promised the
American people?

I'm torn between laughter and incredulity.

Would you feel the same if it were the pope?

Yes -- although the Pope has some credibility behind his quasi-diplomatic
status.

I don't know what's worse -- having second-rate politicians thinking that
they're better than the rest of us, or having "men of the cloth" thinking
the same thing.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
Jay Honeck wrote:
Just another day in the wonderful world of aviation...

You were held up at public airport for the *Dahli Llama*? In
Arizona, USA?
That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des
Moines!

That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des
Moines!

C'mon Jay ... Apples and Oranges,

I was not held up...and there was no official "Ground Stop."

I understand. But while it's true that no leathernecks with machine guns
stopped you from approaching your aircraft (as happened to my family when a
two-bit politician was "expected" to arrive "any minute" in Des Moines last
year), the implications and results are similar.

I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people
are -- and I'm glad you didn't mind the inconvenience. But that doesn't
change the fact that the whole affair was a ridiculous (albeit small)
infringement upon your personal freedom.

... Personally, I'd rather give the Dahli Llama five minutes than give
anyone a chance to think that Americans (in general) and GA pilots in
particular are ignorant, arrogant and uncooperative.

I'd have probably done the same thing as you -- being polite and cooperative
with the police comes naturally for most of us.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:56:49 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
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I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people
are --

The Catholic pedo, er... priests are nearly saintly. :-)

Larry Dighera wrote in
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:56:49 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
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I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people
are --

The Catholic pedo, er... priests are nearly saintly. :-)

I recall seeing an interview with the Dalai Lama, I think on
60 minutes, some years ago. I was very impressed at the
intelligence and thoughtfulness of the man. His remarks
were always very direct, no double talk mumbo-jumbo. For a
religious leader he was very down to earth and personable.
No holier-than-thou attitude.

Brian
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Skywise wrote:

I recall seeing an interview with the Dalai Lama, I think on
60 minutes, some years ago. I was very impressed at the
intelligence and thoughtfulness of the man. His remarks
were always very direct, no double talk mumbo-jumbo. For a
religious leader he was very down to earth and personable.
No holier-than-thou attitude.

Brian

If I understand it correctly, his religion believes that there
are many paths to enlightenment/heaven/nirvana/whatever, and
that how you get there is entirely up to you. Further, while
they are plenty willing to share their thoughts, you have to
take the initiative to ask - they're not going to cram their
beliefs down your throat.

All-in-all a very refreshing attitude compared to many western
religions/religous leaders, where you're automatically doomed to
hell unless you believe exactly as they believe.

Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm torn between laughter and incredulity.

Would you feel the same if it were the pope?

Yes -- although the Pope has some credibility behind his
quasi-diplomatic status.

I don't know what's worse -- having second-rate politicians thinking
that they're better than the rest of us, or having "men of the cloth"
thinking the same thing.

Agreed. WRT politicians, whatever became of the concept of "all men created
equal"?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:lOjYe.394864$xm3.272245@attbi_s21...
That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des
Moines!

C'mon Jay ... Apples and Oranges,

I was not held up...and there was no official "Ground Stop."

I understand. But while it's true that no leathernecks with machine guns
stopped you from approaching your aircraft (as happened to my family when
a two-bit politician was "expected" to arrive "any minute" in Des Moines
last year), the implications and results are similar.

No they're not. I was never prevented from accessing the ramp or my
aircraft and I was not told I couldn't fire up and taxi out. I was asked
something, not told. In fact, had I not walked out to my plane, and just
sat right where I was on the "back porch" of the Tucson Executive Terminal,
I probably would have been able to get some really good photos. But had
they asked me to not use my camera, I would have complied as I was not there
in any official press capacity. Now, if I was "working press" that's a
whole different matter...

I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people
are -- and I'm glad you didn't mind the inconvenience. But that doesn't
change the fact that the whole affair was a ridiculous (albeit small)
infringement upon your personal freedom.

I disagree. This was not a moment to invoke the second coming of Thomas
Payne.

... Personally, I'd rather give the Dahli Llama five minutes than give
anyone a chance to think that Americans (in general) and GA pilots in
particular are ignorant, arrogant and uncooperative.

I'd have probably done the same thing as you -- being polite and
cooperative with the police comes naturally for most of us.

The heck with the cop! Any idea just how bad your karma could get if you
mess with the #1 Budhist in the world !??!

Jay B